Automount in Gnome

Sun Aug 30 01:09:38 MST 2009

log in twice.  Once as a user that gets the automount and once as a user
that does not.  For each user, open a terminal and issue the command
"groups".  Compare the list of groups to see what additional groups the user
that gets automount has.  I am betting that one of them is plugdev or cdrom
or something like that.  Probably all you need to do is add the
NON-automount user to that group.

If you were on ubuntu, I would tell you to go to the Administration Menu,
select Users and Groups and make sure the entry for (something like)
Automatically Use Removable Devices is checked.  But you are on Arch Linux
so I have no idea what such utility you might have.

Dazed_75

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Steve Holmes <steve at holmesgrown.com>wrote:

> When I do startx from root or any other user, for that matter, I get
> automatically logged in as that user.  So I didn't think it possible to
> startx from root and login later as someone else.  But your explanation
> about root permissions makes sense.
>
> Like I say, my expertese of gnome and its configurations is very weak to
> say the least.  Gnome is almost like another distribution like
> Slackware, Arch, Debian, etc.  There's a lot to learn there to fully
> understand how it works and how to fix things.  Since I started gdm from
> a root console and leave it running as a daemon, I've been able to auto
> mount stuff and the directories actually get the right permissions and
> user ownership too.  So I guess I've got as much as I can expect from
> this.  I just wondered though because I had been able to do this from a
> startx sesion on prior distros and past versions.  So maybe something
> got tightened up here or something.
>
> On 08/29/2009 12:20 AM, Bob Elzer wrote:
> > I'm reading this late, so if it was already answered sorry.
> >
> > I think you answered your own question. You say you are running startx as
> a
> > normal user, and then it doesn't work unless you log in as root. Or it
> works
> > when you start gdm in a root console.
> >
> > Something requires root to make automount work, so for instance if you
> had
> > the gui start in the inittab, then root would start what it needed to.
> >
> > Something that needs root doesn't get it when you run startx as a regular
> > user.
> >
> > Try running startx from root, and login as a regular user and see if that
> > works.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of
> Steve
> > Holmes
> > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:43 AM
> > To: plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: Automount in Gnome
> >
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> >
> > I built a new "normal" user and tried it there and got the same results
> as I
> > do with my original normal user.
> >
> > Now I need to provide some more details because I found a solution to the
> > problem so it seems.  I usually like to get into gnome by typing 'startx'
> > from a native text console.  When I do it this way, I get the problems
> I've
> > been writing about for the past several days.  Now if I use 'gdm' by
> > starting it up from a root console and then login with the normal user, I
> > get automount functionality back.  I thought gnome would basically
> operate
> > the same way once someone is logged in regardless of how they got there.
> >
> > Like I said before, My knowledge of gnome internal is next to none. so
> don't
> > know much about really getting everything out of that environment yet.
>  It
> > does seem strange to me that normal users have to have logged in via gdm
> to
> > get this automount stuff to work but if root loggs in via startx then
> > automount works strait away.
> >
> > Sound confusing enough?
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:18:47AM -0700, Dazed_75 wrote:
> >> I apologize if you have already tried this (I deleted some of the
> >> earlier messages after reading them).  But have you tried creating
> >> another normal user and logging in as that user to see what happens
> >> when you plug the USB device in?
> >>
> >> If that works, the problem is fairly certain to be in some setting or
> >> conflict for your usual user only.  If it does not the problem is
> >> likely something to do with how "normal" users are defined in your
> >> system and their permissions to do things.  The ability for a normal
> >> user to use removable [and writeable] devices which would commonly be
> >> denied to normal users in some environments.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Steve Holmes<steve at holmesgrown.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
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> >>> Yes I followed the suggestions and updated hal and udev from the
> >>> testing repo but still no go.  Strangely, it works fine if I login
> >>> as root but from my normal user account, it just goes as far as
> >>> finding and identifying the device but it won't mount to save its
> >>> life.  In fact, if I go to Computer, the device shows up in the list
> >>> of volume names but if I right click and attempt to mount, it just
> > ignores it.
> >>> Yet if root plugs in the device, it comes up in the Nautilus view
> >>> without a problem.  I can then leave it plugged in and logout from
> >>> root and log back in with mynormal account and the drive is still
> >>> accessible but mounted under root.  I guess logging out of gnome
> >>> doesn't unmount the drive; not sure what is supposed to happen there.
> >>>
> >>> I don't know enough about gnome internals to know where to look
> >>> further.  So more help would be greately appreciated.  BTW, thanks
> >>> for the link though; that gave me something to try.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 06:35:41AM -0700, Eric Shubert wrote:
> >>>> Have you seen this?
> >>>> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=77716
> >>>>
> >>>> Steve Holmes wrote:
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> >>>>> I have a question and a problem here with the automounting of
> >>>>> drives and media in Gnome.  Let me try and sort out what I know
> >>>>> here.  On my normal user account, when I plug in a USB drive of
> >>>>> any kind, the automount feature of gnome doesn't take hold.  HAL
> >>>>> discovers it ok and even will build the sym links in
> >>>>> /dev/disk/by-label but gnome won't pick this up and make it
> >>>>> available.  All the volume and removable device options are set
> > properly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Now I just tried logging into gnome this morning from my root
> >>>>> account and there, the device automounted and everything seemed
> >>>>> to work great.  I guess there is a difference between my normal
> >>>>> user's settings and root's.  Where can I find the settings in
> >>>>> conf files or whatever to possibly fix this automount problem?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm running 2.6.30 kernel on an Arch Linux system with latest
> >>>>> updates which includes Gnome 2.26 right now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Any help or ideas?
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that I wish it always to be kept alive.
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