Need Advice on Routers

Stephen cryptworks at gmail.com
Tue Apr 28 17:01:45 MST 2009


In theory but I don't know withot buying a IPkvm or something similar


On 4/28/09, Mark Phillips <mark at phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions. Newegg advertised that all the NICS I mentioned
> are Linux 2.4/2.6 compatible.....for what that is worth! ;-) I will look
> into chip sets as well. Both machines have run Debian before....the PIII is
> a Windows box....it would be more fun to format the drive and install
> Linux....one less Windows installation in the world....;-)
>
> Now to find the time to do all of this......
>
> The PII (and PIII) are both headless now. Is there a way to install IPcop or
> smoothwall over a network without a keyboard or monitor attached to the
> target machine?
>
> Mark
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Eric Shubert <ejs at shubes.net> wrote:
>
>> I'd use the PII as well. You might need a little more ram if you're
>> going to run snort or dan's guardian. Otherwise, it'd be fine.
>>
>> I've used many TrendNet gigabit cards, all worked fine. Most (if not
>> all) gigabit cards I've seen use the RTL8169 chip, which most linuxes
>> (and IPCop) support. I expect smoothwall would too.
>>
>> Mark Phillips wrote:
>> > Thank-you all for your suggestions. I am intrigued with IPcop or
>> > smoothwall on an old PC.
>> >
>> > As it happens, I have an old PIII and PII that I could use. The PIII is
>> > a Dell Dimension XPS T500 with an 800 MHz CPU 512 MB RAM, and the PII is
>> > a Dell Dimension XPS H266 128 MB and 266Mhz CPU. Which one should I use
>> > as a router?
>> >
>> > I looked on Newegg,and found these NICS - anyone have any experience
>> > with them?
>> >
>> > Rosewill RC-400 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI V2.2, 32/64-bit, 33/66MHz
>> > Networking LAN Card With Heatsink & 4 LED indicators - on sale $14.99
>> >
>> > TRENDnet TEG-PCITXR 10/ 100/ 1000/ 2000Mbps PCI Copper Gigabit Network
>> > Adapter - $11.99
>> >
>> > HAWKING HGA32T 10/ 20/ 100/ 200/ 1000/ 2000Mbps PCI Gigabit Ethernet
>> > Adapter - Retail $16.99
>> >
>> > Rosewill RC-411 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI-Express Network Adapter - Retail
>> > on sale $14.99
>> > Thanks!
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Matthew A Coulliette
>> > <matthewlug at cox.net <mailto:matthewlug at cox.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     I am currently building a smoothwall router out of an old pc.
>> Smoothwall
>> >     is a great piece of software.  I have 8 computers so turning an old
>> one
>> >     into a router didn't bother me. It has a web interface for
>> >     administration, and can be set up with up to 4 zones: red - www,
>> orange
>> >     - DMZ (web server), purple - wireless, and green - LAN. For most
>> people
>> >     I would say that this option is more hassle than it's worth, but for
>> >     myself it is just what I was looking for. - MatthewMPP
>> >
>> >
>> >     Technomage wrote:
>> >      > Alex,
>> >      > yes, you can (U have done so in real time here). Also, you can
>> >     isolate
>> >      > that firewall bridge from every other VM on the
>> >      > host without much difficulty (thus preventing one of the
>> >     scenarios that
>> >      > would develop should you misconfigure the
>> >      > internal bridge).
>> >      >
>> >      > also, to put this in some perspective, me and a friend were doing
>> >     this
>> >      > level of Virtual Machine work long before
>> >      > any of the white papers were ever written. He's the one that
>> >     clued me in
>> >      > to how this was done and we both ended up
>> >      > doing a live running test under vmware server for Linux at the
>> time.
>> >      >
>> >      >
>> >      > Alex Dean wrote:
>> >      >
>> >      >> On Apr 27, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
>> >      >>
>> >      >>
>> >      >>> Mark,
>> >      >>>
>> >      >>> I have a couple old e-machines that I made into IPCop
>> >     firewall/routers,
>> >      >>> and have been decommissioned for a while (they were
>> virtualized).
>> >      >>>
>> >      >> Do you mean you virtualized your firewall?  Doesn't that create
>> >     a risk
>> >      >> that other VMs on the same hardware host might be exposed to
>> nasty
>> >      >> stuff which arrives at the firewall?  I'm recalling Austin's
>> > talk
>> on
>> >      >> VMs & security from a year or two ago.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> If I've misunderstood your statement, please disregard.
>> >      >>
>> >      >> alex
>> >      >>
>> >      >
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