Need Advice on Routers

Eric Shubert ejs at shubes.net
Tue Apr 28 11:38:35 MST 2009


You'll need a keyboard and monitor to load IPCop. After it's loaded and 
minimally configured you can run headless. I don't know for sure, but I 
would guess that smoothwall's the same in that regard. (IPCop is a 
branch off smoothwall).

Mark Phillips wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestions. Newegg advertised that all the NICS I 
> mentioned are Linux 2.4/2.6 compatible.....for what that is worth! ;-) I 
> will look into chip sets as well. Both machines have run Debian 
> before....the PIII is a Windows box....it would be more fun to format 
> the drive and install Linux....one less Windows installation in the 
> world....;-)
>  
> Now to find the time to do all of this......
>  
> The PII (and PIII) are both headless now. Is there a way to install 
> IPcop or smoothwall over a network without a keyboard or monitor 
> attached to the target machine?
>  
> Mark
> 
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Eric Shubert <ejs at shubes.net 
> <mailto:ejs at shubes.net>> wrote:
> 
>     I'd use the PII as well. You might need a little more ram if you're
>     going to run snort or dan's guardian. Otherwise, it'd be fine.
> 
>     I've used many TrendNet gigabit cards, all worked fine. Most (if not
>     all) gigabit cards I've seen use the RTL8169 chip, which most linuxes
>     (and IPCop) support. I expect smoothwall would too.
> 
>     Mark Phillips wrote:
>      > Thank-you all for your suggestions. I am intrigued with IPcop or
>      > smoothwall on an old PC.
>      >
>      > As it happens, I have an old PIII and PII that I could use. The
>     PIII is
>      > a Dell Dimension XPS T500 with an 800 MHz CPU 512 MB RAM, and the
>     PII is
>      > a Dell Dimension XPS H266 128 MB and 266Mhz CPU. Which one should
>     I use
>      > as a router?
>      >
>      > I looked on Newegg,and found these NICS - anyone have any experience
>      > with them?
>      >
>      > Rosewill RC-400 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI V2.2, 32/64-bit, 33/66MHz
>      > Networking LAN Card With Heatsink & 4 LED indicators - on sale $14.99
>      >
>      > TRENDnet TEG-PCITXR 10/ 100/ 1000/ 2000Mbps PCI Copper Gigabit
>     Network
>      > Adapter - $11.99
>      >
>      > HAWKING HGA32T 10/ 20/ 100/ 200/ 1000/ 2000Mbps PCI Gigabit Ethernet
>      > Adapter - Retail $16.99
>      >
>      > Rosewill RC-411 10/ 100/ 1000Mbps PCI-Express Network Adapter -
>     Retail
>      > on sale $14.99
>      > Thanks!
>      > Mark
>      >
>      > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Matthew A Coulliette
>      > <matthewlug at cox.net <mailto:matthewlug at cox.net>
>     <mailto:matthewlug at cox.net <mailto:matthewlug at cox.net>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     I am currently building a smoothwall router out of an old pc.
>     Smoothwall
>      >     is a great piece of software.  I have 8 computers so turning
>     an old one
>      >     into a router didn't bother me. It has a web interface for
>      >     administration, and can be set up with up to 4 zones: red -
>     www, orange
>      >     - DMZ (web server), purple - wireless, and green - LAN. For
>     most people
>      >     I would say that this option is more hassle than it's worth,
>     but for
>      >     myself it is just what I was looking for. - MatthewMPP
>      >
>      >
>      >     Technomage wrote:
>      >      > Alex,
>      >      > yes, you can (U have done so in real time here). Also, you can
>      >     isolate
>      >      > that firewall bridge from every other VM on the
>      >      > host without much difficulty (thus preventing one of the
>      >     scenarios that
>      >      > would develop should you misconfigure the
>      >      > internal bridge).
>      >      >
>      >      > also, to put this in some perspective, me and a friend
>     were doing
>      >     this
>      >      > level of Virtual Machine work long before
>      >      > any of the white papers were ever written. He's the one that
>      >     clued me in
>      >      > to how this was done and we both ended up
>      >      > doing a live running test under vmware server for Linux at
>     the time.
>      >      >
>      >      >
>      >      > Alex Dean wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      >> On Apr 27, 2009, at 1:24 PM, Eric Shubert wrote:
>      >      >>
>      >      >>
>      >      >>> Mark,
>      >      >>>
>      >      >>> I have a couple old e-machines that I made into IPCop
>      >     firewall/routers,
>      >      >>> and have been decommissioned for a while (they were
>     virtualized).
>      >      >>>
>      >      >> Do you mean you virtualized your firewall?  Doesn't that
>     create
>      >     a risk
>      >      >> that other VMs on the same hardware host might be exposed
>     to nasty
>      >      >> stuff which arrives at the firewall?  I'm recalling
>     Austin's talk on
>      >      >> VMs & security from a year or two ago.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> If I've misunderstood your statement, please disregard.
>      >      >>
>      >      >> alex
>      >      >>
>      >      >
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