SAN storage practical list of options

Lisa Kachold lisakachold at obnosis.com
Sat Apr 18 14:48:12 MST 2009


I didn't quote how many terrabytes per 9U server, as it varied, depending on
3Ware card population (multiple) and disk.

BTW in the SAN/NAS industry Terrabyte capable doesn't simply mean ONE...

<frustrated petty snicker>

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:

> actually you cna do better than 3tb in a 1u... 8x500gb 2.5 in drives
> in a SuperMicro 1u or 6tb in raid 5 wiht the new 2tb drives coming.
>
> we will have a real budget for this. and the last thing we want is an
> array that has to continually rebuild.
>
> We have an openfiler box, but it does not seem to have what we need
> for Large scale SAN it is a great iSCSI or NAS server however. but i
> amnot seeing the tools i need to make a growing storage pool.
>
> Thankfully we have a real budget for the data center.
>
> On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 7:26 AM, James Finstrom
> <jfinstrom at rhinoequipment.com> wrote:
> > Isn't that awesome 9U 1TB now 1U 3TB..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:59 AM, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold at obnosis.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> The bottom line here is going to be cost, sounds like.
> >>
> >> You could go out to get EMC/Clarion, or Netappliance, yet if what you
> >> really might be able to afford is going to come off of Fry's racks.  Go
> look
> >> at what they have?   Unless you need a NAS like a Sun 2450 with fiber
> >> channel multipath I/O this is going to be a simple SAN?
> >>
> >> What you might actually need is a NFS SAN?
> >>
> >> I supported 9 U Terrabyte capacity  American Micros running 3ware cards
> >> that popped off disks regularly, so you want to be sure your environment
> is
> >> controlled if you device to go plain NSF4 SAN box or get a HP RAID
> server
> >> for instance.
> >>
> >> i personally loved the NetAppliance I managed at Teleport for mail,
> >> because it was very powerful and easy to use.
> >> But of course the cost is going to be prohibitive?
> >>
> >> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Stephen <cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> well i have a large project, I need to create a "growable" store of
> >>> data that is redundant as it will have archival media (audio and
> >>> video). both will be HD quality media. so i am looking at a large pool
> >>> fo data.
> >>>
> >>> i can build a NAS box that will last a while, but it will hit a
> >>> terminal point of capacity. and it will be a single point of access so
> >>> it will create access issues.
> >>>
> >>> So a SAN to distribute both load redundancy and allow for a growing
> >>> capacity is kind of needed.
> >>>
> >>> and looking at most everything out there im leery of jumping on a hype
> >>> bandwagon.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Alex Dean <alex at crackpot.org> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > On Apr 17, 2009, at 3:56 PM, Stephen wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> >> anyone here using a SAN and if so what are they using, maybe some of
> >>> >> the points that sold you on it? or i fyou hate it why?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> it would be nic to have real world thoughts on it instead of all the
> >>> >> markey speak...
> >>> >
> >>> > Could you elaborate on the requirements somewhat?  How do you balance
> >>> > the
> >>> > goals of redundancy, performance, scalability, cost, etc?
> >>> >
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