Sound for OSS apps like Quake, Skype, Gizmo and VMWare and a quick rant

[Erich Newell]

I've noticed a lot of conversation regarding sound problems on a few of the
lists I participate on and thought I might give a shout out on a little
known, but very handy application: "joss" (formerly q3jack) which I host on
behalf of the author: http://www.craknet.net/joss

It is similar to "aoss" but works with the jackd audio connection kit, and I
find it handles MMAP much better than the other solutions. I can use
multiple sound inputs and they actually work. Mostly I leverage it so I can
use my headset for teamspeak and play quake at the same time (
http://www.urbanterror.net)

On a similar note, I have a quick rant/question...can anyone provide a
reason WHY developers continue to build apps to use OSS when its known to be
an epic piece of sh*t?


Cheers.

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:00 PM, <storkus at storkus.com> wrote:

>
> On Tue, 20 May 2008 11:34:52 -0700, "Matt Graham"
> <danceswithcrows at usa.net> said:
> > After a long battle with technology, der.hans wrote:
> > > Am 19. Mai, 2008 schwatzte storkus at storkus.com so:
> > >> Next up, the question: has anyone tried gaming on FreeBSD?  I've seen
> > >> past stuff mainly about problems WRT native software liking ALSA over
> > >> OSS, but I don't know if that's been solved or got worse.  What about
> WINE
> > >> and its descendents?
> > > I'm always trying to find gaming info for *NIX. I discovered atanks
> last
> > > week, but doubt it'd fit real gaming cravings.
> >
> <snipping emulator stuff>
>
> I guess I should've been more specific.  I'm not looking at playing
> console stuff, but I appreciate the info for possible future use!
>
> Right now, the programs are based on the Quake engines, specifically
> Urban Terror running ioquake3 and Enemy Territory:Quake Wars running
> on the Quake 4 engine.  id software makes all their engines available
> natively on Linux, which is one reason why I've been playing them.
> There are many game SERVERS running on FreeBSD out there, but I'm
> having a hard time finding client info.  If it wasn't for Darwin, I'd
> say a Mac binary would work, but I'm sure it won't.
>
> > Wine is hit-or-miss.  If you have a specific program you want to run,
> > it's
> > always best to check it out at winehq.com and see if it can be made to
> > work
> > without major hassle.  Wine *still* can't run Progress Quest without
> > graphical glitches (sigh).
>
> Oh yes, I know.  In my case it would be one of the Valve games (Half
> Life,
> Counter Strike, Team Fortress, etc) most likely.  Again, though, the
> problem here is not whether the game will work with Wine, but whether
> Wine will get along with FreeBSD.
>
> >
> > >> As I'm writing this, I recall that, on modern Slackware anyway, they
> use
> > >> modules and an initrd image, so maybe that's it.
> > > Yup. Everything does at this point. The kernel is too big to boot if
> you
> > > don't put some stuff in modules.
> >
> > It's easy to put together a kernel that doesn't require an initrd.  It's
> > just
> > that that kernel will only boot on a very limited subset of hardware.
> > One of
> > the first things I always do when installing a new distro is to get a
> > recent
> > vanilla source tarball and build a vanilla kernel that doesn't require an
> > initrd because it's got everything needed to mount / built in.  (This
> > also
> > removes bugs caused by distro patches, and typically makes it easier to
> > build
> > and use third-party kernel modules.)
>
> Total Ditto.  The problem is that I was trying to use the source
> included
> with the distro since I obviously didn't have internet access at the
> moment.
> Perhaps this is where everything bombed.  Or maybe something weird with
> the leftover modules.  My last kernel build (on my old desktop) I made
> the
> kernel non-modular, but I can't do that here because of the MadWIFI
> thing.
>
> That's also one other reason I was considering FreeBSD: their support
> for
> Atheros chipsets is very good, with the driver developer working for
> them.
> That and BSD 4.3 was my very first UNIX experience, which also probably
> is one reason I'm so fond of Slackware--well, that and I'm familiar with
> it, having run it for over a decade now on all my machines.
>
> >
> > --
> >    "Oh bother," said the Borg, "We've assimilated Pooh."
> >    --MHR on alt.fan.pratchett
>
> LOL!!
>
> Mike
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