gnucash/kmymoney

Sat Mar 3 16:27:55 MST 2007

I figured out a solution to my problem! I need the extrapackages that come on 
two additional cds. I'm looking into getting them now.

On Saturday 03 March 2007 12:36 am, Joseph Sinclair wrote:
> Mike,
>   By reinstall I meant copy off your important files and do a fresh install
> of the machine.  It's theoretically possible to fix a system that has a
> borked dist-upgrade, but it's both painful and time-consuming enough to
> make a fresh system install the better choice in most cases. The big
> red-flag I noted is the *780 packages not upgraded*, that's usually a sign
> of a pending dist-upgrade that didn't complete or broke in the middle, and
> changing repositories at that point generally just blows apt-get's little
> tiny mind into small bits.  I'm betting that the primary problem you're
> having with apt-get not finding things and/or not resolving dependencies is
> because apt-get needs to complete a dist-upgrade but can no longer find the
> repositories where it started the upgrade, hence it just sort of gives up
> and can't load or fix anything correctly.
>
> Michael Havens wrote:
> > thank you for giving me (and everyone who pays any attention) a bit of
> > your wisdom. I thought the only reason my original machine broke was
> > because I updated after they had released the new KDE. At the time one of
> > the people trying to help me had said this was the case.
> >
> > I would love to reinstall the repositories from the fresh install but
> > those repositories lead to nothing. I tried to install things from those
> > repositories and it could find nothing. I'll post a message on the
> > discussion board and see if someone can post something I can use.
> >
> > Joseph, I really appreciate your help and I'll keep you posted on my
> > progress in this regard.
> >
> > On Friday 02 March 2007 8:41 pm, Joseph Sinclair wrote:
> >> Mike,
> >>   From the apt-get output you posted, it's pretty clear your
> >> repositories are for a different version of the system than you're
> >> running (hence the 780 packages not upgraded). The best solution from
> >> here is to simply re-install with the version you want to be running and
> >> DON'T change the repositories after that. Apt-get does a GREAT job of
> >> keeping your system in sync with a single version.  On many distro's,
> >> however, it won't do the upgrade properly (Ubuntu's latest update is
> >> infamous in this regard, and Feisty is likely to be just as bad; don't
> >> upgrade Ubuntu for new versions, except LTS->LTS, reinstall instead).
> >> For your stable system, you need to choose the long-term-support version
> >> for whatever distro you're running (look for a 3-5 year support
> >> commitment, examples include Ubuntu LTS, RHEL, etc...) and STICK TO IT. 
> >> Don't mess around with a stable system any more than you have to, and
> >> don't upgrade to a new release without testing it elsewhere first.  I've
> >> taken to doing upgrades on my stable system ONLY after I've tested the
> >> upgrade on another machine (which is why I didn't do the Edgy update on
> >> all my Ubuntu machines, it broke the test system badly enough to require
> >> a re-install so my Edgy machines are all fresh installs) and determined
> >> it's both safe to upgrade and enhances system stability or adds critical
> >> features. I have multiple Linux systems, one that runs a LTS version of
> >> Linux that I leave alone except for critical updates; it's stable and I
> >> use it for day-to-day tasks.  The other systems are available for
> >> experimentation because I DON'T EVER keep important data on them, and if
> >> they're down for a few weeks it doesn't hurt me.  One of the "testing"
> >> machines is usually the guinea pig for any changes to the stable
> >> machine. I install the test machine to match stable, then I do to the
> >> test what I want to do on stable, and I only repeat the change on stable
> >> if test works fine for several days after the change (if I need
> >> something NOW I do have a semi-stable system, but that gets into some of
> >> the second-order complexities of my home net and is beyond the scope of
> >> this discussion).
> >>
> >> <Rant disclaimer="The following is a generalization, and is NOT related
> >> to any particular person"> One of the biggest mistakes I see people
> >> make, IMNSHO, with Linux is experimenting/exploring with their
> >> day-to-day critical system that has their important data and
> >> applications (I even did this when I first started using Linux).  When
> >> they're playing around makes the system unstable, they complain about
> >> Linux.  The thing is that Linux isn't at fault, it allows you to do
> >> weird stuff because sometimes you might want to, but you're expected to
> >> either know what you're doing before you start, or do your learning on a
> >> spare machine you can afford to rebuild from scratch every now and then
> >> without getting upset. Some people think Windows is better for
> >> less-technical users because you don't have to constantly "tweak it" to
> >> keep it up and running.  This is complete bunk. Windows needs far more
> >> support to keep running properly than Linux ever has, the difference is
> >> that Linux *allows* you to tweak it constantly, so a lot of people who
> >> should just leave it alone try to make a perfectly functional system run
> >> "better" and end up breaking it.  There's nothing wrong with trying
> >> things to make a system better, just don't do it with your critical
> >> day-to-day machine. Again, set up one machine that's for real work, and
> >> LEAVE IT ALONE except for critical updates (hopefully applied by the
> >> distribution's auto-update mechanism in the background every week or
> >> so).  Do your tweaking and learning on a separate "learning" system
> >> (this can be in a Virtual Machine if your main system is fairly
> >> powerful) and expect to rebuild it from scratch every few weeks when you
> >> break stuff. </Rant>
> >>
> >> Michael Havens wrote:
> >>> This gets me to thinking: perhaps i could apt-get the stable version.
> >>> THAT MIght work. To be completely honest with you I tried it already
> >>> and it responded:
> >>>
> >>> bmike1 at 1[~]$ sudo apt-get install gnucash=1.8.10-12
> >>> Reading package lists... Done
> >>> Building dependency tree... Done
> >>> E: Version '1.8.10-12' for 'gnucash' was not found
> >>> bmike1 at 1[~]$ sudo apt-get install gnucash=stable
> >>> Reading package lists... Done
> >>> Building dependency tree... Done
> >>> E: Version 'stable' for 'gnucash' was not found
> >>> bmike1 at 1[~]$ sudo apt-get install gnucash=testing
> >>> Reading package lists... Done
> >>> Building dependency tree... Done
> >>> E: Version 'testing' for 'gnucash' was not found
> >>> bmike1 at 1[~]$
> >>>
> >>> What did I do wrong? Am I supposed to set something to stable? What?
> >>>
> >>> On Friday 02 March 2007 6:53 pm, Michael Havens wrote:
> >>>> That is what caused this whole problem. I upgraded my ssystem and
> >>>> broke EVERYthing.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Friday 02 March 2007 6:48 pm, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> >>>>> That's part (or most) of your problem. You should do the updates. The
> >>>>> farther you get behind, the harder is will be for you to update your
> >>>>> system. If you do updates frequently (like every week or at least
> >>>>> every month), it will make it easier for you to keep up.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 77 upgraded, 48 newly installed, 18 to remove and 780 not upgraded.
> >>>>>> Need to get 170MB of archives.
> >>>>>> After unpacking 41.7MB of additional disk space will be used.
> >>>>>> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
> >>
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