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Thu Jun 14 11:07:46 MST 2007


<br>
&quot;Hey, Grampa, tell us the story about 80 column punch cards, and why a=
<br>
good rubber band was your best friend. You mean you couldn&#39;t just talk<=
br>
to the computer?&quot;<br>
<br>
&quot;Well, Sonny, columns 1-5 were for your numeric labels. A &#39;C&#39; =
in column<br>
6 meant it was a continuation from the previous line, and your code went<br=
>
in columns 7-72. Columns 73-80 were your card sequence number and it was<br=
>
optional. Nobody liked to put numbers there because if we moved a block<br>
of code, we would have to resequence the cards. Screw that - just make<br>
sure you had a good rubber band, and another one as a backup in case the<br=
>
first one broke. Gives you a whole new meaning of data backup, huh.&quot;<b=
r>
<br>
&quot;Grampa, what was the deal with column 1 on the printer?&quot;<br>
<br>
&quot;Oh, yeah. Put a 1 in column 1 and the printer won&#39;t advance. Prin=
t<br>
about 10 lines with this:<br>
1=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D<br>
and all of the print wheels on the line printer would line up and the<br>
strikers would synchronize and go WHOMP WHOMP WHOMP and shake the whole<br>
computer center. Heh, heh, heh. The computer operators would jump out of<br=
>
their skin - they definitely knew when I ran a job.&quot;<br>
<br>
&quot;Grampa, what&#39;s a line printer?&quot;<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
George Toft, CISSP, MSIS<br>
623-203-1760<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Mark Jarvis wrote:<br>
&gt; (repost using email address I signed up with)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; In 1960 (+ or - a year) I took a programming class at ASU where we use=
d<br>
&gt; the LGP-30.&nbsp;&nbsp;It had a 1000 (1024?) word drum and each word w=
as 32 bits.<br>
&gt; The drum was the main memory--there was no other storage.&nbsp;&nbsp;I=
t had<br>
&gt; 16--yes 16!--instructions with paper tape input and typewriter output<=
br>
&gt; and it had a one or two inch oscilloscope where you could watch the<br=
>
&gt; instructions execute.&nbsp;&nbsp;Part of each instruction was the addr=
ess of the<br>
&gt; next instruction to be executed.&nbsp;&nbsp;Too few today have the ass=
embly<br>
&gt; language background to appreciate the oddities of&nbsp;&nbsp;the machi=
ne, but it<br>
&gt; had some doozies.&nbsp;&nbsp;Five years later I had graduated and was =
working at<br>
&gt; Motorola Semiconductor on McDowell and transferred into the computer<b=
r>
&gt; section of the QC department.&nbsp;&nbsp;We had a GE 205 computer with=
 8192 20 bit<br>
&gt; words of memory.&nbsp;&nbsp;If I remember correctly, a single word mem=
ory access<br>
&gt; took 36 microseconds.&nbsp;&nbsp;When sorting 30 row, 12 column table =
using the<br>
&gt; Shell sort algorithm, the console lights made a several second long<br=
>
&gt; pattern that was quite easy to spot.&nbsp;&nbsp;BTW, the 205 was the e=
ntry level<br>
&gt; knockoff of the GE215 box.&nbsp;&nbsp;Since the 215 had a memory cycle=
 time of 18<br>
&gt; microseconds, GE added a bunch of circuit boards to steal every other<=
br>
&gt; clock cycle to make the machine slower so they could lease it for less=
.<br>
&gt; Go figure!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Yes, for lots of years I used decks of cards for both programs and<br>
&gt; data.&nbsp;&nbsp;If you had any sense, you sequenced your cards in col=
 73-80 so<br>
&gt; that when (not if--when) the deck was dropped, a few passes through th=
e<br>
&gt; sorter would fix things--and you initially sequenced by 10s or 20s to<=
br>
&gt; allow for later additions.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; While I wouldn&#39;t take anything for the experiences of those years,=
 I<br>
&gt; wouldn&#39;t go back to them for anything either.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Mark Jarvis<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Jim wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;Lynn Newton wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;But I&#39;m sure there are a number of subscribers to this list=
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;who can one-up me with &quot;I remember when&quot; stories, by =
margins<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;of several years at least.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;I don&#39;t know if this would be in the one up category, but I rem=
ember<br>
&gt;&gt;being a high school freshman in 1981 and spending time after school=
 in<br>
&gt;&gt;the math teacher&#39;s room messing around with his TRS80 with a wh=
opping<br>
&gt;&gt;4KB RAM and running programs stored on cassette tape.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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