Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope

Robert Wultsch plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:04:11 -0700


Ever think about debian?

Phil Mattison wrote:

> This system is a PentiumIII 600MHz with 128MB RAM in a genuine Intel
> motherboard. No strange hardware, recent Netgear PCI LAN card, ordinary ATA
> CD-ROM drive and floppy, SIS-300 graphics chip, and that's it. Took me about
> a day and a half to install RH7.3, get samba running and setup Apache. Its
> fairly stable so long as I connect via SSH from a remote terminal or move
> files via samba (I edit on a Win98 box). I used to leave it on for weeks at
> a time. But I like to use the KDE email reader to check my server logs etc,
> and gradually I noticed a correlation between using that and system
> instability. Now I shut it down every night and minimize my KDE/Gnome usage,
> so the effort to figure out the problem is more than that of avoiding it. I
> have a RH8.0 box set I was going to upgrade to, but heard that RH major
> releases tend to be the least stable (what the !?!?!). I think the
> open-source community is like the Bizarro world of computing, to borrow from
> Sienfeld. Just the same, I love a free lunch. I guess I just have to chew
> carefully.
> --Phil M.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alan Dayley <alandd@mindspring.com>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:28 PM
> Subject: RE: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope
> 
> 
> 
>>Occam's Razor applies here.
>>
>>On a particular box Linux is unstable but Windows 98 is stable.  Why?
>>
>>Is it more probable that thousands of other installations of that same
> 
> Linux distro version are also unstable and the users are lying about the
> stablility?
> 
>>OR
>>
>>Is it more probable that the particular computer has odd or flakey
> 
> hardware or some other issue that the particular Linux distro version does
> not handle well?
> 
>>There is some flakey or poorly documented hardware, especially in some
> 
> older PCs, that just don't run Linux correctly.  IMO Linux actually pushes
> the hardware harder than Win98 ever will.  Marginal chips or vendors that
> won't release required information make it hard to write good drivers for
> some hardware.
> 
>>OTOH, it could be something else.  :^)
>>
>>Alan
>>
>>-------Original Message-------
>>From: Tom Achtenberg <TomA@fh.org>
>>Sent: 06/12/03 01:08 PM
>>To: "'plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us'"
> 
> <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> 
>>Subject: RE: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope
>>
>>
>>>Phil,  I had the same problems with my RH 7.3 box.  It was much less
> 
> stable
> 
>>than my Windows 98 box!  I finally gave up.  I'm now trying Mandrake 9.1.
>>It took 4 days and several attempts to get the install completed without
>>errors.  (Found the disk 1 iso on the Hawaii mirror is bad too.)  I
> 
> haven't
> 
>>had much time to work with it yet, but it has been a disappointment too.
>>Mandrake update doesn't work to start with.  The whole task bar at the
>>bottom of the screen keeps disappearing too.  Only way to get it back is
> 
> to log
> 
>>off and log back on.  This same box would run for weeks on Win 98 with no
>>errors.  I have not even tried to connect to my file server or printers
> 
> yet.
> 
>> If I cannot do it without manually editing files I'll probably just put
>>Windows back on and forget about Linux for a desktop.
>>
>>
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