Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope

Phil Mattison plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:00:51 -0700


This system is a PentiumIII 600MHz with 128MB RAM in a genuine Intel
motherboard. No strange hardware, recent Netgear PCI LAN card, ordinary ATA
CD-ROM drive and floppy, SIS-300 graphics chip, and that's it. Took me about
a day and a half to install RH7.3, get samba running and setup Apache. Its
fairly stable so long as I connect via SSH from a remote terminal or move
files via samba (I edit on a Win98 box). I used to leave it on for weeks at
a time. But I like to use the KDE email reader to check my server logs etc,
and gradually I noticed a correlation between using that and system
instability. Now I shut it down every night and minimize my KDE/Gnome usage,
so the effort to figure out the problem is more than that of avoiding it. I
have a RH8.0 box set I was going to upgrade to, but heard that RH major
releases tend to be the least stable (what the !?!?!). I think the
open-source community is like the Bizarro world of computing, to borrow from
Sienfeld. Just the same, I love a free lunch. I guess I just have to chew
carefully.
--Phil M.

----- Original Message -----
From: Alan Dayley <alandd@mindspring.com>
To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 4:28 PM
Subject: RE: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope


> Occam's Razor applies here.
>
> On a particular box Linux is unstable but Windows 98 is stable.  Why?
>
> Is it more probable that thousands of other installations of that same
Linux distro version are also unstable and the users are lying about the
stablility?
>
> OR
>
> Is it more probable that the particular computer has odd or flakey
hardware or some other issue that the particular Linux distro version does
not handle well?
>
> There is some flakey or poorly documented hardware, especially in some
older PCs, that just don't run Linux correctly.  IMO Linux actually pushes
the hardware harder than Win98 ever will.  Marginal chips or vendors that
won't release required information make it hard to write good drivers for
some hardware.
>
> OTOH, it could be something else.  :^)
>
> Alan
>
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Tom Achtenberg <TomA@fh.org>
> Sent: 06/12/03 01:08 PM
> To: "'plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us'"
<plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Subject: RE: Good Bye Gnome, Hello KDE, I hope
>
> >
> > Phil,  I had the same problems with my RH 7.3 box.  It was much less
stable
> than my Windows 98 box!  I finally gave up.  I'm now trying Mandrake 9.1.
> It took 4 days and several attempts to get the install completed without
> errors.  (Found the disk 1 iso on the Hawaii mirror is bad too.)  I
haven't
> had much time to work with it yet, but it has been a disappointment too.
> Mandrake update doesn't work to start with.  The whole task bar at the
> bottom of the screen keeps disappearing too.  Only way to get it back is
to log
> off and log back on.  This same box would run for weeks on Win 98 with no
> errors.  I have not even tried to connect to my file server or printers
yet.
>  If I cannot do it without manually editing files I'll probably just put
> Windows back on and forget about Linux for a desktop.
>
>
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