PLUG website

[Thoreau]

Unfortunately, if you want a pre-fab system, there are none better than
PostNuke.  That, of course, doesn't mean that a CMS designed for news is
appropriate either.

As far as the servers at UnityWave, I know exactly what you mean.  That is
another reason I am in favor of the most lean code/system available, even if
it requires a small investment of time up front.  Unitywave doesn't have
resources to waste, thus I don't think we should waste them in the first
place.  Try loading PostNuke on a test server of your own, toss in some
content, then just load the main page.  Then check the mySQL logs to see
just how many queries it makes to the database.  I can give you a hint, 'too
many.'

As far as customizing postnuke, that is an area where I could be of minimal
assistance, as I do not know PHP or the PostNuke system as well as I would
like.

I have already written qutie a few CMS's for my own sites in the past, and
am currently writing one that covers every single requirement of PLUG, as
well as a bucket load more.  Only downside is that it is in ASP.  (That, and
I made my friend Josh do most of the work while I have been managing the
project and setting the requirements.)

If I were to invest the time in learning PHP that I need to do anyway, I
would do so in an effort to build something, not tweak something that
someone else built.  PostNuke is a good product for what it does,
unfortunately what it does is very specialized, and has simply been used for
unintended purposes by a large number of people, which gives the impression
of being the right choice for the wrong application.

Speaking of PostNuke, quite a few of the lead developers, as well as the
person who started the PostNuke project have recently left the team and
started back up on their own.  I wouldn't advise use of a product when it's
best developers have all left.  Who knows what will come of the system in
the coming months/years.

Adam Rader

-----Original Message-----
From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of David
Uhlman
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:44 PM
To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Re: PLUG website


I agree that PLUG is not a news site however as far as the type of content
we would be managing it fits into the news paradigm of cms system very well.
Lots of short pieces by a number of authors, with differeing security
levels, variety of type os content (thinks categories of articles) and so
on.

I understand your dislike of postnuke, can you suggest an alternative that
does not have to be written from scratch and meets all the other criteria
these threads have highlighted. As I said in my first post I have completed
a review of almost all the "free" cm systems and I can say that there isn' t
based on that research, but please prove me wrong or point me in the right
direction.

The only other system I can think of at all would be the campsite system
but, that wouldn't work very well with the donated servers from unity wave.

It seems with your enthusiam you could help a lot to tailor the postnuke
system to solve the problems the we may come across.

Sincerely,
David Uhlman
CTO 50km Inc.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thoreau" <ARader@supportbeam.com>
To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 11:01 PM
Subject: RE: PLUG website


> I would have to agree on everything in here, except I still strongly
dislike
> using postnuke for any purposes other than toilet paper, or news sites.
> (and let's face it, PLUG is not a news site, and it doesn't have the
> manpower to become one.)
>
> I think I already said this, but in the time it takes to customize nuke
the
> way PLUG wants it, a custom system could already have been developed and
> tested.
>
> Adam Rader
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Derek
> Neighbors
> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 10:46 PM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: PLUG website
>
>
> > Knowledgeable people looking for local events can make it through a
simple
> > interface to get to the more in-depth content.
> >
> > Others need a non-scary interface that welcomes them in and points them
at
> > introductory info.
>
> I agree here 100%.
>
> > I think the local orientation is the way to go. We should choose a few
> other
> > places, e.g. the LDP, LinuxNewbie.org, and Linux.com, to point people
at.
> > I'd prefer content that PLUG members might create be part of the
> > international efforts such as those.
>
> I agree 100%.  I would hate to see PLUG try to be 'slashdot' or some
> other GNU\Linux news type of source.  At least not as its opening
> presentation.  What the site does underneath the initial face I think
> should be very flexible and diverse, but upfront presentation should be
> very simple and inviting.
>
> > If we use something like PostNuke, it doesn't have to lay on top. We
could
> > have a customized 'intro' that is simpler and more elegant. In fact, I
> think
> > PostNuke themes should allow for something like that.
>
> Works for me.
> --
> Derek Neighbors
> GNU Enterprise
> http://www.gnuenterprise.org
> derek@gnue.org
>
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