Firewalling as an introductory Linux topic (was: Re: PLUG-discuss digest, Vol 1 #2205 - 2 msgs)
Robert A. Klahn
plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Sat, 4 May 2002 01:35:42 -0700
Mike (and the list):
This is probably not the answer you really want, but I'm just going to be a tad honest here.
Your easiest path, as a self-described newbie, is to probably go out and just buy that Linksys router/firewall. It should work, and will probably suit your needs just fine.
Firewalling is a somewhat advanced topic, and might not be a suitable place to start to learn about Linux. I'm not saying that it cant be done, many people have used Linux to do exactly what you are trying to do, but it requires a background in both UNIX and Networking that the typical newbie to Linux just does not have.
If you do attempt to set up the Linux box as a firewall, which I still encourage you to do so, you will learn a LOT about Linux and Networking. This might be useful to you, but it will not happen quickly, expect to devote about 3-4 weeks to setting your box up to do this, between hacking around on the box, reading HOWTOs, and waiting for replies on the list.
If you do choose to go forward with this, there are a lot of people on this list, including myself, more than willing to give you a hand, and show the way.
For starters:
The answer to your "How do I set up eth1?" question is in Chapter 12 of the Red Hat Linux Reference Guide, _Network Scripts_ at http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/ref-guide/ch-networkscripts.html. The short answer is, as root, run "redhat-config-network", but you really should read and understand this chapter.
You should read Chapter 18 in the Red Hat Linux Reference Guide _Firewalling with iptables_ http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/ref-guide/ch-iptables.html . This does not have everything you need, but to set up the firewall you are going to need to understand most everything in this chapter. You will need to focus on _iptables_, _ipchains_ is an older firewalling implementation, and as someone running a 2.4 kernel, you don't really need to know about _ipchains_ except, perhaps, as a historical reference.
The Netfilter site http://netfilter.samba.org/ has a lot of useful information on Linux Firewalling and Networking in general. The Networking Concepts HOWTO provides a good introduction to Networking in general, if you understand firewalling already, you probably don't need to cover this, but here it is anyways: http://netfilter.samba.org/documentation/HOWTO//networking-concepts-HOWTO.html
The NAT Howto http://netfilter.samba.org/documentation/HOWTO//NAT-HOWTO.html covers the topic of Network Address Translation, which you are going to need to understand to get packets from your eth1 network to your eth0 network, and vice versa.
Despite the fact that these pages live at samba.org, you are not going to have to install Samba to get this to work. In fact, the advice that someone else gave before, that (and Im paraphrasing here) a Firewall should be nothing but a Firewall is very prudent advice.
Good Luck.
Bob.
On Sat, 4 May 2002 01:26:25 -0700
plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us wrote:
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> From: "mikeb455" <mikeb455@cox.net>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Subject: Re: PLUG-discuss digest, Vol 1 #2204 - 10 msgs
> Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:53:07 -0700
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>
> Thank you for all the responses to my home network question. I am very
> impressed with all of you and you willingness to help. I am afraid that most
> of your suggestions are over my head at this point. I am just wanting to use
> my linux box as a router and connect to my windows box to share the DSL
> connection. I am not ready to start writing scripts or compiling anything.
> What I know about Linux I have learned on my own and have had no help up
> until this point. I suppose I could just spend the 80 bucks for a linksys
> router but I would rather learn to take advantage of linux. Please tell me
> (remember I am a complete newbie) if there is an easier way. I will be at
> the next Mesa meeting if anyone would be wiiling to talk with me about this.
> Thanks again, Mike
>
>
>
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> > 1. Re: Adding a third IDE drive in Linux (Matt Alexander)
> > 2. MPEG players (Lynn David Newton)
> > 3. Re: MPEG players (Dallas Helquist)
> > 4. Re: MPEG players (Codie William Masters)
> > 5. RE: RMS (again) (Todd Hought)
> > 6. Re: Linux home network (Tom Achtenberg)
> > 7. Re: RMS (again) (Jeff)
> > 8. OpenOffice 1.0 creating menu/icons (Alan Dayley)
> > 9. Re: OpenOffice 1.0 creating menu/icons (Alan Dayley)
> > 10. Re: OpenOffice 1.0 creating menu/icons (Alan Dayley)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 18:49:57 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Matt Alexander <m@netpro.to>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Subject: Re: Adding a third IDE drive in Linux
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >
> > Then... partition the disk as desired with fdisk, create a filesystem on
> > each partition with mke2fs, and then add it to your /etc/fstab so it's
> > mounted automatically at boot time.
> >
> > For example,
> >
> > fdisk /dev/hdd
> > mke2fs /dev/hdd1
> > mount /dev/hdd1 /mountmebabylikethebadmountpointIreallyam
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 3 May 2002, der.hans wrote:
> >
> > > Am 03. May, 2002 schwätzte sundar so:
> > >
> > > > I want to add a third IDE drive to my home server. It's a old Sony
> > > > PCV-70. Are there any good How-tos you could refer me to.
> > >
> > > ide bus 0 master is /dev/hda
> > > ide bus 0 slave is /dev/hdb
> > > ide bus 1 master is /dev/hdc
> > > ide bus 1 slave is /dev/hdd
> > >
> > > On normal x86 box bus 0 is primary ide and bus 1 is secondary ide.
> > >
> > > Normally your original hard drive should be hda. Your CD will be hdb if
> it's
> > > on the same cable as the primary hard drive or hdc if it's by itself on
> the
> > > secondary ide bus.
> > >
> > > If you have two items on an ide cable use the jumpers to set one to
> master
> > > and the other to slave. I think you might be able to set them both to
> select
> > > ( or something like that ) if they're new enough.
> > >
> > > Look at www.LinuxDoc.org for HOWTOs. There are plenty. There should be
> one
> > > that covers ide hardware setup.
> > >
> > > ciao,
> > >
> > > der.hans
> > > --
> > > # https://www.LuftHans.com/
> > > # I've got a photographic memory,
> > > # but I'm lousy photographer. - der.hans
> > >
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> > Message: 2
> > From: Lynn David Newton <lynn.newton@cox.net>
> > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 19:19:21 -0700
> > To: Phoenix Linux Users Group <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > Subject: MPEG players
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >
> >
> > What is everyone's favorite MPEG player (that plays
> > both video and audio)?
> >
> > I've got MTV. Don't like it.
> >
> > --
> > Lynn David Newton
> > Phoenix, AZ
> >
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> > Message: 3
> > Subject: Re: MPEG players
> > From: Dallas Helquist <dhelquist@viawest.net>
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Date: 03 May 2002 20:57:04 -0600
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >
> > MTV :)
> >
> > Besides that I've used Xine and Mplayer. Both perform quite well, with
> > Xine being easier to install and configure (did so right out of the
> > box..played divx stuff as well).
> >
> > -dallas
> >
> > On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 20:19, Lynn David Newton wrote:
> > >
> > > What is everyone's favorite MPEG player (that plays
> > > both video and audio)?
> > >
> > > I've got MTV. Don't like it.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lynn David Newton
> > > Phoenix, AZ
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> > Message: 4
> > Subject: Re: MPEG players
> > From: Codie William Masters <retsamedoc@cox.net>
> > To: Plug-Discuss List <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Date: 03 May 2002 20:10:46 -0700
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
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> > On Fri, 2002-05-03 at 19:19, Lynn David Newton wrote:
> > =20
> > > What is everyone's favorite MPEG player (that plays
> > > both video and audio)?
> > >=20
> >
> > MPlayer is what I use. It's not much on the gui side but you can skin it
> > if you want. It plays video and audio with most availible formats and
> > codacs. DiVX, MPEG-1\2, MP3. DVDs, Video for Windows, Indeo, and (some)
> > Quicktime. but check it out for yourself. You need GCC 3.0+ to really
> > make installation smooth, but it's worth it.
> >
> > Check it out at http://www.mplayerhq.hu
> >
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 20:12:35 -0700 (MST)
> > From: Todd Hought <thought@scudder-enterprises.com>
> > To: "'plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us'"
> <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Subject: RE: RMS (again)
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >
> > On Fri, 3 May 2002, der.hans wrote:
> >
> > > Am 03. May, 2002 schwätzte Todd Hought so:
> > >
> > > > Agreed. I've never had the opportunity to meet him, but I've heard
> he's
> > > > about as friendly as 40 grit sandpaper. Yep, he's got a good cause,
> but
> > > > the worst execution of said cause I've ever seen. Kinda like the Ford
> > > > Pinto, good idea, poor execution.
> > >
> > > RMS has a good idea and a good vision. His method of implementation
> isn't
> > > very open to letting others do as they desire :(. His view is that
> they're
> > > taking his freedoms, so he's willing to fight against that. I think
> that's
> > > understandable even if I don't agree with the way he does it.
> >
> > Yep, problem is, it seems that he feels that EVERYONE is trying to take
> > his freedoms, be it by making proprietary, bad software,
> > <sarcasm> or by that most heinous of crimes, not saying 'GNU' in front of
> > the word 'Linux'
> > </sarcasm>
> >
> > >
> > > GNU and the FSF should have someone else be the mouthpiece. At the same
> > > time, I'd like to have him back if we think we can get people interested
> in
> > > talking. Maybe this time do more intro for the various groups in town,
> etc.
> > >
> > > > If anyone does happen to go see him, my next-door neighbor is a
> barber,
> > > > and quite a nice guy, I'm sure he'd donate a haircut and beard trim to
> the
> > > > FSF.
> > >
> > > Blasphemer!
> >
> > OK, let me rephrase, he doesnt need a haircut, maybe just a lesson in what
> > a brush is and how to use it.
> >
> > And no offense intended to you, ya LongHair, I know you are an
> > exceptionally normal person. :-)
> >
> > >
> > > > In fact, I personally challenge RMS to come up with a business plan
> based
> > > > on the creation of Open Source software that does NOT involve living
> in
> > > > one's own office at MIT or 'selling tech support'.
> > >
> > > As Derek has already pointed out that's a challenge for ESR not for RMS.
> > >
> > > What's wrong with 'selling tech support'? That's where the big bucks
> are.
> > > m$, other software vendors and hardware vendors make tons of money off
> that.
> > > The real quote should be on 'selling' since, for instance, you have to
> pay
> > > m$ to report a bug in their software.
> > >
> > > RedHat is doing well with a mostly Free Software model. The ogg/vorbis
> guys
> > > seems to be doing so as well if they can avoid patents, etc. SuSE lost
> out
> > > in the .us, but is still doing well in Europe. I believe TurboLinux is
> still
> > > doing well in .jp and I think Yellow Dog is somewhat stable here.
> > >
> > > The real inhibitor to Free Software companies is the m$ monopoly. The
> income
> > > rolling in from 25% of that market would keep lots of geeks off the
> streets.
> > > If it weren't for the monopoly and proprietary protocols/formats we
> would
> > > easily have 25% of that market.
> > >
> > > Their lock on protocols/formats is dissolving. I think that opens the
> door
> > > for Free Software and gives us the chance to break the monopoly. Only
> the
> > > Free Software model is in a position to do that.
> > >
> >
> > Anyhew, I guess what it boils down to is that when you're just a regular
> > guy living in your work office, not bathing and looking generally freaky,
> > you're weird. When you're famous, it's just "being colorful"
> >
> > > ciao,
> > >
> > > der.hans
> > > --
> > > # https://www.LuftHans.com/
> > > # Stell dir vor, es ist Krieg und keiner geht hin...
> > >
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> > Message: 6
> > From: "Tom Achtenberg" <lists@azrattlers.org>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Subject: Re: Linux home network
> > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 20:56:25 -0700
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
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> > I have done exactly what you are trying to do using a Linux box and the =
> > e-Smith SME server from Mitel. It runs on Linux and only needs a p-90 =
> > or better (I have it running on a P-75) 32 RAM and 2 PCI NIC's. It is a =
> > free download from e-smith.org
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: mikeb455=20
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us=20
> > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 9:08 PM
> > Subject: Linux home network
> >
> >
> > Hello everyone, this is my first submission. I would like to set up a =
> > home network for the purpose of sharing my DSL connection. I was ready =
> > to buy a router when I heard that that I could accomplih this with =
> > linux. Only two computers right now but I will be adding a laptop next =
> > month. My Linux box is running RH 7.2 with the network installation and =
> > two NIC cards installed. My windows machine has a card installed. I have =
> > a cable modem and network cables. I have already established a internet =
> > connection with eth0. How do I configure eth1? What else do i need to =
> > know? Will this require installing Samba?=20
> > Your dealing with a newbie here guys, I hope this is not too lame of a =
> > question. I appreciate any help, Thanks
> >
> >
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> > on=20
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> > P-75) 32 RAM=20
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> > 9:08=20
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> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Linux home =
> > network</DIV>
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello everyone, this is my first =
> > submission. I=20
> > would like to set up a home network for the purpose of sharing my DSL=20
> > connection. I was ready to buy a router when I heard that that I could =
> >
> > accomplih this with linux. Only two computers right now but I will be =
> > adding a=20
> > laptop next month. My Linux box is running RH 7.2 with the network=20
> > installation and two NIC cards installed. My windows machine has a =
> > card=20
> > installed. I have a cable modem and network cables. I have already =
> > established=20
> > a internet connection with eth0. How do I configure eth1? What else do =
> > i need=20
> > to know? Will this require installing Samba? </FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your dealing with a newbie here guys, =
> > I hope this=20
> > is not too lame of a question. I appreciate any help, =
> > Thanks</FONT></DIV>
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> > Message: 7
> > From: "Jeff" <jeff@stickboyproductions.com>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Subject: Re: RMS (again)
> > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 09:50:42 -0700
> > Organization: Stickboy Productions
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >
> > Who is Richard M. Stallman and what is his importance in life? and why do
> we
> > want to hear him talk if he is anal about dumb stuff?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Victor Odhner" <vodhner@cox.net>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: RMS (again)
> >
> >
> > | Matt Alexander wrote:
> > | > Well, I'll only be attending if the official name of the group is
> > | > GNU/X11/Mozilla/Apache/Matt_is_cool/I_like_donuts/Linux.
> > | > ~Matt
> > |
> > | Thanks, Matt.
> > |
> > | I was trying to think of a way to say that ...
> > |
> > | I, for one, have met the guy once. That was
> > | educational. I don't need to meet him again.
> > |
> > | To his issue, I'd be open to calling our group
> > | something related to open source software --
> > | we also support GNU, BSD, X11, Mozilla, etc. --
> > | but Mr. Stallman wouldn't like that either since
> > | not all of "etc" is "Free Software".
> > |
> > | The only way around may be to set up an informal
> > | valleywide "GNU Users Group" dedicated to hosting
> > | speeches by Richard M. Stallman.
> > |
> > | Vic
> > |
> > | Kirt Karl wrote:
> > | > [Stallman] doesn't want the event to be in any way
> > | > associated with a Linux users group (only if the
> > | > official name of the group is GNU/Linux).
> > | ________________________________________________
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> > Message: 8
> > From: Alan Dayley <alandd@mindspring.com>
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: OpenOffice 1.0 creating menu/icons
> > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:39:12 -0700
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >
> > This did not work for me and my KDE desktop.
> >
> > -As root (in Konsole as 'su') I ran setup from the install files on my
> hard
> > drive.
> > -Installed to /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0
> > -No errors during install
> > -Ran setup as user from the install files. Aborted because it wanted to
> > install all over again.
> > -Ran /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0/setup as user. Wants to Modify, Repair or
> > Remove the software.
> >
> > So what do I do to automatically create the icons?
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > On Friday 03 May 2002 03:28 pm, you wrote:
> > > ---
> > > As with StarOffice 5.2
> > >
> > > install as root
> > >
> > > as user (not root) /install directory/setup
> > >
> > > (repeat for each user)
> > > that will automatically add OpenOffice menu items in your KDE or GNOME
> > > user menus
> > >
> > > Craig
> > > ________________________________________________
> > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
> > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> > >
> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 9
> > From: Alan Dayley <alandd@mindspring.com>
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: OpenOffice 1.0 creating menu/icons
> > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 22:49:19 -0700
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >
> > I found the answer (I am trying it now).
> >
> > http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/instructions.html
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > On Friday 03 May 2002 10:39 pm, you wrote:
> > > This did not work for me and my KDE desktop.
> > >
> > > -As root (in Konsole as 'su') I ran setup from the install files on my
> hard
> > > drive.
> > > -Installed to /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0
> > > -No errors during install
> > > -Ran setup as user from the install files. Aborted because it wanted to
> > > install all over again.
> > > -Ran /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0/setup as user. Wants to Modify, Repair
> or
> > > Remove the software.
> > >
> > > So what do I do to automatically create the icons?
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > On Friday 03 May 2002 03:28 pm, you wrote:
> > > > ---
> > > > As with StarOffice 5.2
> > > >
> > > > install as root
> > > >
> > > > as user (not root) /install directory/setup
> > > >
> > > > (repeat for each user)
> > > > that will automatically add OpenOffice menu items in your KDE or GNOME
> > > > user menus
> > > >
> > > > Craig
> > > > ________________________________________________
> > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail
> doesn't
> > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> > > >
> > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> > >
> > > ________________________________________________
> > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
> > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> > >
> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> >
> > -- __--__--
> >
> > Message: 10
> > From: Alan Dayley <alandd@mindspring.com>
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: OpenOffice 1.0 creating menu/icons
> > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:14:04 -0700
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >
> > These instructions did not work for me. It says in steps 6,7,8 to do the
> > user portion of the setup but it does not say to logout from root.
> >
> > Then, if you do these steps as root, it wants to install in the /root
> > directory not the /home/user directory. I specified the /home/user
> directory
> >
> > Step 8 then says to do a "normal" install but the only choices it provides
> > are "Workstation" or "Local" I tried Workstation because Local uses up
> > another 210MB of storage space.
> >
> > After all this, as user I could run /home/user/OpenOffice.org1.0/soffice
> but
> > it would hang and I had to kill it. AND, the menus and icons did not
> display.
> >
> > Back on the original install (step 4) I choose to include only KDE
> > integration, deseleting Gnome integration. Is that a problem? This is a
> > straw I am grasping at, a bug in the install script or something.
> >
> > Either I am not doing something right or I am not impressed by the
> > installation process. Either way, I am too tired to play anymore today.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > On Friday 03 May 2002 10:49 pm, you wrote:
> > > I found the answer (I am trying it now).
> > >
> > > http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/instructions.html
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > On Friday 03 May 2002 10:39 pm, you wrote:
> > > > This did not work for me and my KDE desktop.
> > > >
> > > > -As root (in Konsole as 'su') I ran setup from the install files on my
> > > > hard drive.
> > > > -Installed to /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0
> > > > -No errors during install
> > > > -Ran setup as user from the install files. Aborted because it wanted
> to
> > > > install all over again.
> > > > -Ran /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0/setup as user. Wants to Modify,
> Repair
> > > > or Remove the software.
> > > >
> > > > So what do I do to automatically create the icons?
> > > >
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 03 May 2002 03:28 pm, you wrote:
> > > > > ---
> > > > > As with StarOffice 5.2
> > > > >
> > > > > install as root
> > > > >
> > > > > as user (not root) /install directory/setup
> > > > >
> > > > > (repeat for each user)
> > > > > that will automatically add OpenOffice menu items in your KDE or
> GNOME
> > > > > user menus
> > > > >
> > > > > Craig
> > > > > ________________________________________________
> > > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail
> doesn't
> > > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> > > > >
> > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________________
> > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail
> doesn't
> > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> > > >
> > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> > >
> > > ________________________________________________
> > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
> > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> > >
> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> >
> >
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> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> >
> >
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>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 2
> Subject: Re: PLUG-discuss digest, Vol 1 #2204 - 10 msgs
> From: Matt <punkmmiv@cox.net>
> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> Date: 04 May 2002 00:27:38 -0700
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>
> Just install it from user and it should work fine. That's what I did.
> > Message: 10
> > From: Alan Dayley <alandd@mindspring.com>
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: OpenOffice 1.0 creating menu/icons
> > Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 23:14:04 -0700
> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> >
> > These instructions did not work for me. It says in steps 6,7,8 to do the
> > user portion of the setup but it does not say to logout from root.
> >
> > Then, if you do these steps as root, it wants to install in the /root
> > directory not the /home/user directory. I specified the /home/user directory
> >
> > Step 8 then says to do a "normal" install but the only choices it provides
> > are "Workstation" or "Local" I tried Workstation because Local uses up
> > another 210MB of storage space.
> >
> > After all this, as user I could run /home/user/OpenOffice.org1.0/soffice but
> > it would hang and I had to kill it. AND, the menus and icons did not display.
> >
> > Back on the original install (step 4) I choose to include only KDE
> > integration, deseleting Gnome integration. Is that a problem? This is a
> > straw I am grasping at, a bug in the install script or something.
> >
> > Either I am not doing something right or I am not impressed by the
> > installation process. Either way, I am too tired to play anymore today.
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > On Friday 03 May 2002 10:49 pm, you wrote:
> > > I found the answer (I am trying it now).
> > >
> > > http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/instructions.html
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> > > On Friday 03 May 2002 10:39 pm, you wrote:
> > > > This did not work for me and my KDE desktop.
> > > >
> > > > -As root (in Konsole as 'su') I ran setup from the install files on my
> > > > hard drive.
> > > > -Installed to /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0
> > > > -No errors during install
> > > > -Ran setup as user from the install files. Aborted because it wanted to
> > > > install all over again.
> > > > -Ran /usr/lib/OpenOffice.org1.0/setup as user. Wants to Modify, Repair
> > > > or Remove the software.
> > > >
> > > > So what do I do to automatically create the icons?
> > > >
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 03 May 2002 03:28 pm, you wrote:
> > > > > ---
> > > > > As with StarOffice 5.2
> > > > >
> > > > > install as root
> > > > >
> > > > > as user (not root) /install directory/setup
> > > > >
> > > > > (repeat for each user)
> > > > > that will automatically add OpenOffice menu items in your KDE or GNOME
> > > > > user menus
> > > > >
> > > > > Craig
> > > > > ________________________________________________
> > > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
> > > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> > > > >
> > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________________________
> > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
> > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> > > >
> > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> > >
> > > ________________________________________________
> > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
> > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> > >
> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
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> >
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