RPM Rant (was: Re: Evolution on RedHat 7.2)

[Blake Barnett]

DEB is not better than RPM.  RPM is slightly better if you do a
comparison of features.  DEB has a couple things that would not be hard
to put into RPM.  All RedHat needs to do is integrate APT, or something
equivalent to it in their distribution and the dependancy-hell issue
will go away.  It's the fact that they haven't done it YET that is the
problem.

IMHO, Connectiva has done the right thing in porting APT to RPM, maybe
RedHat will use their work.  I would like to see it.  In fact, I would
like to see Debian switch to RPM just for consistency.  They would need
to port over some of the features of dpkg to RPM, and possibly even have
their own version of RPM (like Mandrake...).  But at least it would end
this stupid holy-war over packaging, which should have been over years
ago.  With the LSB, maybe... maybe it will happen, wishful thinking
still though.


On Thu, 2002-01-24 at 23:02, Robert A. Klahn wrote:
> Well, yea. http://packages.debian.org/unstable/non-us/evolution.html Thats quite a list of prereqs there, but, at least its clear what they are. All it would take is a...wait, we have already been down this path.
> 
> This was part of my counter-rant, that Debian 3.0 is nowhere near ready. 389 release critical bugs proves it. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2002/debian-devel-announce-200201/msg00010.html
> 
> If RedHat really wanted to shake things up, and prove that this "Open Source" thing really works, they would realize the error of their ways, admit that DEB is better, and make the switch. Now that would result in a powerful distribution.
> 
> Bob.
> 
> On 24 Jan 2002 21:45:59 -0700
> Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2002-01-24 at 15:07, Blake Barnett wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2002-01-24 at 10:29, Victor Odhner wrote:
> > > 
> > > <snip>
> > > 
> > > > But how does the common-library-version-compatibility issue
> > > > play out in the Linux world?  I'd be interested in hearing
> > > > comments on this, because I haven't done a lot of updating
> > > > under Linux.  Seems to me that doing an apt-get to install
> > > > one application, with its required libraries, might cause
> > > > a library to become incompatible with another application
> > > > already resident on the machine.
> > > 
> > > That's what APT is.  It checks all those dependancies between what is
> > > installed, and what is going to be installed, downloads only what you
> > > need to fulfill those dependancies and simplifies your life.  It's very
> > > configurable and you can do quite a few other things with it, but that
> > > is the gist.
> > > 
> > > In short, the problem you describe, is one that APT was designed to
> > > eliminate.
> > > 
> > ---
> > yeah but... where is Evolution 1.01 in deb sources?  in unstable if it
> > is available at all - I would bet.
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
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