Evolution on RedHat 7.2

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> > I had the same feeling when I was trying the evolution betas.  I had to
> > satisfy a million dependencies I normally didn't need on my KDE desktop.
>
> Youl always have dependencie issues using RPM its what RPM was made for ..

Well, yes.

What really ticked me off is not that RPM was asking for dependencies
(Good Thing) but that RPM was asking for 20 or 30 dependencies for what
turned out to be an overgrown Outlook clone (Bad Thing).  Since I run KDE
and not Gnome, I don't have FreelibGconf-XML2-fbdev-ximian-2.02.i386.rpm
installed.

As an aside, I honestly don't see what all the hubub about Outlook is.
It isn't that great a concept.  Integration is nice, but when I want to
read my mail, I really want to read my mail.  Not just pretend to.

I think some real innovation (in the English, not Microsoft, sense) in
this area is very possible.  I would work on it, but it's a bit beyond my
ken at this point.

While KMail honestly isn't there yet, I like the fact that the organizer
and mail software are technically different projects.  I have a better
chance at a mailer that does mail well, rather than a "GENERIC JOB-DOING
ENVIRONMENT" that does 90 things half-way.

> > And hey, there's other KDE people out there..  I thought I was alone. :)
> >
>
> I will agree that KDE looks nice ,, But yes there is a but .. its way to
> bloaty the thing bloody grows filling /tmp with mindless crap .. so not only
> does it install a bed of useless apps but also creates temp files/dir in
> /tmp .. I was quick to remove KDE when I saw this ..

And people wonder why I think I'm alone in my fan-tendencies toward KDE.
:)

When I boot up my laptop and the KDE splash screen appears, I sometimes
get a look from fellow Linux geeks that makes me wonder if I've recently
eaten any of their children.

I'm afraid that someday, this will transpire:

Me: Here, let me boot up my machine.

Random Linux Person: <mortified> Is that KDE?

Me:  Why yes, it is.  I like it very much.  Do you like cheese?

Random Linux Person:  GIT OUT THE BRANDING IRON, EARL!@  WE GOTS OURSELVES
A LIVE ONE HERE!

If you think this is farfetched, remember that the Emacs vs. VI jihad is
20 years strong.  Computer people are not a forgiving bunch.

But then I remember Kurt Granroth is on this list (HELO KURT) and I
suddenly don't feel so bad about it.

> So who knows what KDE 2 does .. its prolly capable to take over your
> whole desktop..

It really is nice.  What I like about the jump away from 'Window Managers'
and toward 'Desktop Environments' is the less interface obfuscation
between me and what I have to do.

When I get on the workstation, I don't want to have to think about the way
the desktop works.  I just want to turn on, log in, (code || fix problem
|| browse web || dislike slashdot || frag), and log off.  While that was
theoretically possible before, it's much easier to set up now.

If I could figure out how to rid myself of the logging in and out bit
without giving me a case of the screaming heebie jeebies, I would.

I understand KDE.  I've been using it a long time, and it gets easier to
understand as features are added.  Not harder.  I find it to be less
obfuscating than Gnome.  So I use KDE.   It's as simple as that.

> I now use XFCE or the Amiga desktop ... installing only the apps I want and
> creating the menu system accordingly ..

Amiga desktop?  Have a link?  That would be great for some of the smaller
machines I'm running.

>
> I found having a very lightweight X installation ment i could get top
> proformance out of oogle xine quake3 UT and Heretic 2 ...

I can say xine runs just great under KDE, and for things like Quake3 and
UT, do you really need a window manager for that?  You could use a
specialized xdm class or .xinitrc, obviating the need for a window
manager in the first place.  It also might boost performance a bit more.

-Sam, apologising in advance for his behavior.