Woohoo!!!

Dallas Helquist plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Wed, 21 Nov 2001 23:14:34 -0700


On Wednesday 21 November 2001 11:09 pm, you wrote:
> I work for a small retailer and run a mixed environment.  Red Hat and win
> 98 we also have an NT server.  I believe that the servers, yes both, have
> been up and running for more than 7 months each.  No problems with either
> OS except their inherent deficentcies.  Lack of applications on Linux and
> Viruses on Windows.

Nearly every patch I've applied in NT requires a reboot - killing uptime.  
We've got some NT boxes that have good uptimes, but with the frequency of 
patches I'd say none of them are over a couple months.  I think the mail 
server is the only one that hasn't been rebooted in 6 months (go rockliff 
mailsite).

With me - win9x/NT have required fairly regular reboots, and proof that this 
is not just me is the universal piece of advise to fix a microsoft box - have 
you rebooted it?  The ones that seem to have an uptime of more than a week 
tend to only run one service.  Unix boxes (solaris/linux/etc) that run 
multiple services are known to stay up for literally years, and something 
requiring a reboot is mainly due to hardware failure - not OS related.  Heck, 
the email/www/ftp/mud/icecast/dns server I've got has been up for nearly 300 
days and there's not even a reboot in sight.  In that time I've upgraded 
nearly every component besides the kernel itself.

Now, win2k I've heard good things about uptime/stability wise, but haven't 
had a reason to try it yet.

-dallas




>
> Charles Reynolds
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kimi A. Adams" <kimi@unitywave.com>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:19 AM
> Subject: Re: Woohoo!!!
>
> > Well, well.  Now it just seems like someone's joy is someone's thorn.  I
> > believe that having a Windows machine up more than three days is a feat
> > beyond having a Linux server up a whole year.  But then again, I also get
>
> a
>
> > warm fuzzy when my machine doesn't perform some type of screw up on a
>
> daily
>
> > basis.  Those .dll files can be quite a pain in the neck.  So, I would
>
> like
>
> > to put this into perspective.  If you have a server that hasn't crashed
> > or stopped working or been accidentally reformatted at least once, then I
> > congratulate you with my whole heart and being.  But, on Windows, whether
> > it needs it or not, we start from scratch every few months.  No
> > notification needed, definitely no crying required.  But then again,
> > notifications can be quite a preempt to a larger problem at hand. 
> > Wishing well to those that have made it more than three days............
> >
> > : )
> >
> > Kimi
> >
> > At 11/21/01, you wrote:
> > >Wooho? Would you (if you could) set up a 'at' command to
> > >do something like this:
> > >'uptime | mail -s "See how well we are doing!" cfo@yourcompany.com'
> > >
> > >Doesn't look so impressive at that point does it? :-)
> > >
> > >On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 09:19:53AM -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > > > Digital Wokan wrote:
> > > > > I didn't think Windows had an uptime command.  (If they did, it was
> > > > > apparently so shamefully low, they removed it from Win2K.)
> > > > >
> > > > > George Toft wrote:
> > > > > >I am not bashing Microsoft, but in a fit of glory, I must share
> > > > > >my elation.  I have nursed my Windows box along to record heights
> > > > > >in uptime:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >=============================================================
> > > > > >Microsoft(R) Windows 98
> > > > > >   (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1981-1998.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >C:\WINDOWS>uptime
> > > > > > 00:41:07  up 6 days, 5:17,  1 user
> > > > > >C:\WINDOWS>
> > > > > >=============================================================
> > > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > I get very good uptimes from Windows NT 4.0 / SP6a - so that is not a
> > > > big deal - Windows 98 isn't very impressive.
> > > >
> > > > There is a Micosoft Windows Diagnostic Tool on Win98SE that will
>
> report
>
> > > > these things like uptime.
> > > >
> > > > Craig
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