Virtual Hosting

Sun, 7 Jan 2001 16:04:39 -0700

George,

Thanks for taking all this time to explain things to me.  I'm
relatively new to Linux and the web.  Started doing web stuff about 20
months ago,  Linux about 13 months.  I really like
Linux,Apache,MySql,PHP.... and hoping to like qmail.

I'm making my first attempt at a web server at http://204.17.52.19. My
friend has several servers and wanted to do Linux so he asked me to
help.

I'm going to try my hand at Qmail at about 5am tomorrow.

My goal is something very simple.  Linux,Apache,MySql,PHP,Qmail,EZMLM,
and DNS all on one box to start.  I would like to start doing virtual
hosting.

I visited your site at http://www.georgetoft.com, very interesting.
So 65 hour weeks is the norm?

Mind if I pick your brain from time to time?  Like every 5
minutes......?

Thanks for all the info.

Keith

----- Original Message -----
From: George Toft <george@georgetoft.com>
To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Virtual Hosting

> Cheap as the boss could find.  Ultra-66 IDE's, but the UDMA-66
> drivers were not installed, so they were a little slower.  We could
> sustain 2 MBytes/sec data transfer, which is about 40% of the max
> that UDMA-66 can *sustain* (or so I've read).  My goal was to give
> the box as much RAM as was necessary to minimize hard drive access,
> so drive speed became less important.
>
> These run Apache, wu-ftp, qmail, snmp and mysql.  Each server is
> totally self-contained, except for DNS.  Most of the servers had
64MB
> RAM, some 128MB, and a couple had 256MB.  All hard drives are 10GB
> Quantum fireballs, with a few Seagates and Western Digitals (no, the
> WD's did not work very well).  Network is 100BaseTx.
>
> The busiest site we had (10mbps traffic the day her site was
> announced on the Howard Stern show) was actually running on three
> of these boxes using round-robin DNS.  Her site stayed up throughout
> the show, which is very unusual for a Howard Stern promo.  I wish
> I could remember her name.
>
> George
>
>
> Keith Smith wrote:
> >
> > Knowing that you were running an AMD K6/500 with 128MB RAM, I am
> > curious about what drives you are using.
> >
> > Did this setup include mail, data, and httpd all on one server?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Keith
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: George Toft <george@georgetoft.com>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2001 10:16 PM
> > Subject: Re: Virtual Hosting
> >
> > > We did 1800 sites on 30 IP's - what's the big deal?  We found
the
> > > practical limit to Apache's ability to serve virtuals was about
> > > 240 URL's.  This was due to the fact that we ran out of file
> > > descriptors, which required either recompiling the kernel (not
at
> > > 3:30am when we found the problem) or stop logging access,
errors,
> > > referrers, and agents.  We then started logging just access and
> > error,
> > > and the next problem was all these cgi gurus on the virtual
accounts
> > > that kept dragging down the server, but that was after we
approached
> > > 300 virtuals on 1 IP on one AMD K6/500 with 128MB RAM.
> > >
> > > George
> > >
> > >
> > > Keith Smith wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Check this guys email.
> > > >
> > > > 477 sites on 2 IP's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: sweetgrass <zen2now@qwest.net>
> > > > To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 10:23 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Virtual Hosting
> > > >
> > > > > i assume you are speaking of web hosting. the reason i ask,
is
> > > > because we
> > > > > host in house as well co-locate, but use virtual hosts with
> > apache
> > > > and
> > > > > virtual ip's with IIS (M$'s definition), and trust me you
will
> > want
> > > > to use
> > > > > virtual hosts if you are hosting more than 30 sites. at our
> > co-lo we
> > > > are
> > > > > serving up more than 477 sites on 2 ip's, so you can
understand
> > why
> > > > virtual
> > > > > hosting is so important. it makes maintaining zones a cake
walk.
> > > > apache.org
> > > > > should lead you in the right direction,
> > > > > and if you choose the lesser platform M$ can help. also
> > o'reily's
> > > > has a
> > > > > great book to start out with.
> > > > >
> > > > > slr
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "John Albee" <john@empresamexicana.com>
> > > > > To: "PLUG" <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 1971 5:08 PM
> > > > > Subject: Virtual Hosting
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > We are in the process of converting our websites to our
own
> > > > servers
> > > > > instead
> > > > > > of virtual hosting for our sites.  My question is about
how to
> > get
> > > > it
> > > > > setup
> > > > > > to work like the virtual servers in terms of ftp and
system
> > users.
> > > > I
> > > > > would
> > > > > > much rather do this than something like NFS and in case we
> > ever do
> > > > offer
> > > > > > virtual hosting, I want it to be accessible in the same
way as
> > any
> > > > other
> > > > > > virtual server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > John Albee
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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