because I am not above asking...

[George Toft]

Now I'm going to have to retry it to vindicate myself.

George


plug@arcticmail.com wrote:
> 
> He didn't type it in "from memory."
> 
> He randomly chose a salt and a password and
> used his mind to create the hash using the
> same hash function that Solaris uses!  Three
> minutes to Wapner.  Yeah.  About a hundred
> dollars.  Yeah.
> 
> The only thing I can think of on the "position"
> issue is that the code that reads /etc/passwd
> and /etc/shadow might go a little wonky if
> the two files weren't in sync (e.g., /etc/shadow
> has a like for "bgates" but a corresponding
> entry is missing from /etc/passwd).  If /etc/passwd
> and /etc/shadow WERE in sync (same logins and the
> logins are in the same order in both files),
> then that would be quite a stumper.
> 
> I remember waay back on SCO Unix that its
> security subsystem wasn't happy if /etc/passwd,
> /etc/group, and the tcb ("trusted" computing
> base (ja, right!)) weren't consistent.
> 
> D
> 
> * On Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 01:31:19PM -0700, sinck@ugive.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > \_ As long as you are not moving the passwords, yes.  It seems the
> > \_ passwords are dependent upon position (based on experience where
> > \_ I tried to delete a user using vi on /etc/passwd, and every user
> > \_ after that position could no longer log in; I restored that user and
> > \_ all of the others could log in again).
> >
> > Urk...that's new behaviour...I remember the good old days when I saw
> > someone stop-a a sun, bring it back up single user, type in the
> > encrypted password string *from memory* and had a viable user when it
> > came up all the way.
> >
> > On an unrelated humor note:
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/middle_east/newsid_1097000/1097631.stm
> >
> > David
> 
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