Mandrake/RPM uninstall
Lord Edward James William
plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:28:20 -0700
I tried to setup knapster. It didnt work. When I try to reinstall it wont
let me beacuse the old one is there.
How do I uninstall? I tried the package manager and it doesnt show that its
installed.
Linux4Lyfe
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> 1. Re: Mandrake 7.2 (KevinO)
> 2. RE: culture of *NIX (der.hans)
> 3. RE: culture of *NIX (David A. Sinck)
> 4. Re: Mandrake 7.2 (proudhawk@uswestmail.net)
> 5. RE: culture of *NIX (Craig White)
> 6. Re: culture of *NIX (Kevin Brown)
> 7. RE: culture of *NIX (Craig White)
> 8. Configuring a Firewall to prefer certain traffic... (Jiva DeVoe)
> 9. Re: Mandrake 7.2 (foodog)
> 10. Re: Configuring a Firewall to prefer certain traffic... (foodog)
> 11. Re: Configuring a Firewall to prefer certain traffic... (der.hans)
> 12. Re: SMTP Server (der.hans)
> 13. Re: SMTP Server (Jay)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:42:31 -0700
>From: KevinO <kevin_oconnor@geocities.com>
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>Tyler Hall wrote:
> >
> > No, I was using windows, using Adptect CD Creator ;)
> >
>
>Some versions of Adaptect's EZ CD Creator are known to not be able to
>burn bootable CDs...
>
>If you can possibly manage it, you should try it under Linux, per
>Gontran's suggestions...
>
>Also take a look at the CD-Writing HowTo at:
>http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO-3.html
>
>
>--
>Kevin O'Connor
>
>She can kill all your files;
>She can freeze with a frown.
>And a wave of her hand brings the whole system down.
>And she works on her code until ten after three.
>She lives like a bat but she's always a hacker to me.
> -- Apologies to Billy Joel
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:36:06 -0700 (MST)
>From: "der.hans" <PLUGd@LuftHans.com>
>To: quatsch <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>Subject: RE: culture of *NIX
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>Am 28. Apr, 2001 schwäzte Craig White so:
>
> > I would really like to take an office completely into open source
>because I
> > know it can be done, should be done in governmental offices, non-profits
>and
> > any business that is starting up and doesn't have a major investment in
>
>I agree and think it's quite possible. It does, however, take
>training. Companies run into probs because they think Linux is 'free' and
>don't want to train employees. Some of the same companies will send
>secretaries to m$ whatever class every time a new version pops out...
>
> > Microsoft specific application features - I think the major weakness
>here is
> > 'presentation' software. Does anyone know of purely linux offices in the
>
>You mean like Star Office, magicpoint, Impress or the others I just found
>on freshmeat while looking for a program I'd seen, but never used and can
>no longer remember the name of?
>
>http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=presentation&filter=786
>
>There's also DFBPoint, http://freshmeat.net/projects/dfbpoint/, that I see
>uses the framebuffer.
>
>I've used StarOffice before. It worked pretty good. Used magicpoint
>recently. No front end, but I like the program. Being able to generate
>every by hand and not wait for a GUI is most cool and far faster than
>click and drool. Being able embed commands and X programs into slides is
>also cool :).
>
> > valley?
>
>est, the bru dudes, moved to a Linux environment in 1996 ( or thereabouts
>). They had macntoys for publishing, but I think that was recently moved
>to another platform. Might not've been Linux.
>
>They do devel and testing on multiple platforms because that's what they
>support, but all day to day stuff is Linux. Tim Jones who was VP of
>engineering there until recently said they never really had a problem with
>new hires and Linux.
>
>ciao,
>
>der.hans
>--
># der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.YourCompanyHere.net
>;-)
># Practice socially consious hedonism. Do whatever you want,
># as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. - der.hans
>
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>Message: 3
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:58:18 -0700
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: RE: culture of *NIX
>From: "David A. Sinck" <sinck@ugive.com>
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>
>
>\_ SMTP quoth Craig White on 4/28/2001 23:49 as having spake thusly:
>\_
>\_ Then one day, the logs stop and I get a call from him that his very
>young
>\_ web programmer needs help configuring their new Windows 2000 system,
>which
>\_ turns out to be a pirated copy of Windows 2000 Advanced Server.
>
>Be Helpful. Be Honest. Call the Business Software Alliance.
>
>If they are being so clever as to put CC# in the bare out there, they
>deserve much worse than a visit by the BSA.
>
>David
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: 29 Apr 2001 18:56:13 -0700
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>From: proudhawk@uswestmail.net
>Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>here is how you mount an iso.
>first, create a dir under mnt (call it iso)
>then issue the command: mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/name_of_iso_here.iso
>/mnt/iso
>
>then you should be able to poke around the ISO like a filesystem
>
>
>Technomage Hawke
>
>On Sun, 29 April 2001, Gontran wrote:
>
> > Tyler,
> >
> > Not to exasperate you for details, but I've been duping some CDs this
> > week (mac OS ... for personal backups), and I'm wondering how you copied
>the
> > iso onto your HDD. Did you use dd? If so, making an exact duplicate
>should be
> > as easy as:
> > % cdrecord -v YOUR_OPTIONS_HERE my_mandrake.(iso|raw|watevr)
> >
> > Can you mount the iso via the loop device? From the manual( with mods
>for
> > situation):
> >
> > THE LOOP DEVICE
> > One further possible type is a mount via the loop device.
> > For example, the command
> >
> > mount /tmp/myimage /mnt -t iso9660 -o
>loop=/dev/loop3,blocksize=1024
> >
> >
> > If you can, that's a good thing(), next since you're having problems
>with
> > the booting check out the boot or image dirs (idk which on that cd) and
> > make sure you have some boot.cat or boot.catalogue (though it could be
> > anything). If those are there, the iso is more likely bootable (not a
> > thorough test, sorry) and the above cdrecord option should get you your
> > bootable iso.
> >
> > Let's get it.
> > Gontran
> >
> > --
> > Moby Moby Moby
> >
> >
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>Message: 5
>From: "Craig White" <craigwhite@azapple.com>
>To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>Subject: RE: culture of *NIX
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 20:52:34 -0700
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of David
> > A. Sinck
> > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 4:58 PM
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: RE: culture of *NIX
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > \_ SMTP quoth Craig White on 4/28/2001 23:49 as having spake thusly:
> > \_
> > \_ Then one day, the logs stop and I get a call from him that his
> > very young
> > \_ web programmer needs help configuring their new Windows 2000
> > system, which
> > \_ turns out to be a pirated copy of Windows 2000 Advanced Server.
> >
> > Be Helpful. Be Honest. Call the Business Software Alliance.
> >
> > If they are being so clever as to put CC# in the bare out there, they
> > deserve much worse than a visit by the BSA.
> >
>---
>I briefly considered this - but then...
>
>1. I have to govern my own conscience and no one elses - I didn't work on
>it,
> aid in the setup, show them how to disable license checking etc or in
>any
> way, encourage the use of an illegal copy.
>
>2. They won't be the first nor the last company to hang a db on a machine
> directly exposed to the internet. The scary part of this - an this
>could
> apply to any company that you deal with is that they could put the
> database with cc#'s, the same one with telephone orders so you are in
> reality, no safer calling in your cc# orders than you are ordering via
> the internet.
>
>3. If I call BSA, it would seem like sour grapes on my part and I want any
> customer that I deal with to freely choose not to use me any longer
>without
> fear of retribution and without fear that I will restrict their
>computer
> usage in any way, shape or form. I won't withhold passwords, etc.
>
>From what I've seen in the setup of Win2K server, it generates its own
>broadcast to Microsoft servers and every network attempt to reach Microsoft
>Web, Updates etc. generates some probes of ports 53 and 515 so I think they
>get clued in fairly quickly anyway. It also seems to me that on May 9th,
>the
>30 days grace period for licensing registration ends and various services
>such as terminal, file and print services will shut down. Time wounds all
>heels.
>
>Craig
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:06:01 -0700
>From: "Kevin Brown" <kevin_brown@qwest.net>
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: Re: culture of *NIX
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> > 1. I have to govern my own conscience and no one elses - I didn't work
>on
> > it,
> > aid in the setup, show them how to disable license checking etc or in
>any
> > way, encourage the use of an illegal copy.
> >
> > 2. They won't be the first nor the last company to hang a db on a
>machine
> > directly exposed to the internet. The scary part of this - an this
>could
> > apply to any company that you deal with is that they could put the
> > database with cc#'s, the same one with telephone orders so you are in
> > reality, no safer calling in your cc# orders than you are ordering
>via
> > the internet.
> >
> > 3. If I call BSA, it would seem like sour grapes on my part and I want
>any
> > customer that I deal with to freely choose not to use me any longer
> > without
> > fear of retribution and without fear that I will restrict their
>computer
> > usage in any way, shape or form. I won't withhold passwords, etc.
> >
> > >From what I've seen in the setup of Win2K server, it generates its own
> > broadcast to Microsoft servers and every network attempt to reach
>Microsoft
> > Web, Updates etc. generates some probes of ports 53 and 515 so I think
>they
> > get clued in fairly quickly anyway. It also seems to me that on May 9th,
>the
> > 30 days grace period for licensing registration ends and various
>services
> > such as terminal, file and print services will shut down. Time wounds
>all
> > heels.
>
>If this won't hurt your conscience, then how about letting us know who this
>person is if they do business on the web so that we won't put ourselves at
>risk
>by buying from someone who would put our CC# on a box accessible from the
>web.
>
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>
>Message: 7
>From: "Craig White" <craigwhite@azapple.com>
>To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>Subject: RE: culture of *NIX
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:49:40 -0700
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Kevin
> > Brown
> > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 9:06 PM
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: culture of *NIX
> >
> > If this won't hurt your conscience, then how about letting us
> > know who this
> > person is if they do business on the web so that we won't put
> > ourselves at risk
> > by buying from someone who would put our CC# on a box accessible
> > from the web.
> > ________________________________________________
>
>Actually, I do worry about many things here...I am reasonably confident
>that
>I have convinced him of the folly in putting the db on this machine and in
>fact, is not currently running dbms on this machine. I am also fairly
>certain that no one in this group does business with them.
>
>Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA7 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
>Interesting ports on (x.x.x.x):
>(The 1524 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
>Port State Service
>81/tcp open hosts2-ns
>135/tcp open loc-srv
>389/tcp open ldap
>443/tcp open https
>1002/tcp open unknown
>1025/tcp open listen
>1026/tcp open nterm
>3005/tcp open deslogin
>3333/tcp open dec-notes
>3389/tcp open msrdp
>
>TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments
> Difficulty=6376 (Worthy challenge)
>Remote OS guesses: Windows 2000 RC1 through final release, Windows
>Millenium
>Edition v4.90.3000
>
>Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 15 seconds
>
>Craig
>
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>
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>Message: 8
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 22:14:14 -0700
>From: Jiva DeVoe <jiva@opnix.com>
>To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: Configuring a Firewall to prefer certain traffic...
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>Is it possible to configure a linux firewall to prefer traffic from a
>certain host? In other words, if you have 2 hosts on a network, and
>one is doing a download, if the second one starts something up, it
>will *NOT* be affected by the download on the first box, but the first
>box's traffic will slow down to allow the second one through?
>
>--
>Jiva DeVoe
>VP Of Software Development
>Opnix, Inc. - Simply coolio bandwidth.
>GPG Fingerprint: 0A17 DF84 516A 1DC4 B837 FE6D 3128 41CD 97CB 4AA7
>
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>Message: 9
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 22:26:20 -0700
>From: "foodog" <foodog@pop.phnx.uswest.net>
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>FWIW, I use just such a gimpy version of EZ CD Creator at work. Although
>it won't let me create my own content and make the disk bootable, it
>doesn't have problems burning bootable ISO images that I've downloaded.
>...
>
>Now I'm wondering if I could mount a bootable ISO as a filesystem, add
>my own stuff and burn it... Now I have something to play with tomorrow
>when I get bored :-)
>
>Steve
>
>KevinO wrote:
> >
> > Tyler Hall wrote:
> > >
> > > No, I was using windows, using Adptect CD Creator ;)
> > >
> >
> > Some versions of Adaptect's EZ CD Creator are known to not be able to
> > burn bootable CDs...
> >
> > If you can possibly manage it, you should try it under Linux, per
> > Gontran's suggestions...
> >
> > Also take a look at the CD-Writing HowTo at:
> > http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO-3.html
> >
> > --
> > Kevin O'Connor
> >
> > She can kill all your files;
> > She can freeze with a frown.
> > And a wave of her hand brings the whole system down.
> > And she works on her code until ten after three.
> > She lives like a bat but she's always a hacker to me.
> > -- Apologies to Billy Joel
> > ________________________________________________
> > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
>post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> >
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>Message: 10
>Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 23:14:59 -0700
>From: "foodog" <foodog@pop.phnx.uswest.net>
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: Re: Configuring a Firewall to prefer certain traffic...
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>It seems to be supported under 2.2.x and up. In xconfig, under
>'networking options' (kernel 2.2.19), the last entry is for "QoS and/or
>fair queueing", QoS == Quality of Service, A.K.A. traffic shaping.
>
>From the help tab:
>
>CONFIG_NET_SCHED:
>
>When the kernel has several packets to send out over the network
>devices, it has to make a decision which one to send first. This is
>especially important if some of the network devices are real time
>devices that need a certain minimum data flow rate. There are
>several different algorithms for how to do this "fairly"; they are
>called packet schedulers. ...
>
>According to some Redhat propaganda it's configured through IPCHAINS:
>
> 7.37 Why do the new 2.1.x and 2.2.x kernels use IPCHAINS instead of
>IPFWADM?
>
> IPCHAINS supports the following features that IPFWADM doesn't:
>
> "Quality of Service" (QoS support)
> ...
>I'd suppose the (misguided) VOIP people would be a good source for
>implementation details.
>
>Steve
>
>Jiva DeVoe wrote:
> >
> > Is it possible to configure a linux firewall to prefer traffic from a
> > certain host? In other words, if you have 2 hosts on a network, and
> > one is doing a download, if the second one starts something up, it
> > will *NOT* be affected by the download on the first box, but the first
> > box's traffic will slow down to allow the second one through?
> >
> > --
> > Jiva DeVoe
> > VP Of Software Development
> > Opnix, Inc. - Simply coolio bandwidth.
> > GPG Fingerprint: 0A17 DF84 516A 1DC4 B837 FE6D 3128 41CD 97CB 4AA7
> > ________________________________________________
> > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
>post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> >
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>Message: 11
>Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 00:39:16 -0700 (MST)
>From: "der.hans" <PLUGd@LuftHans.com>
>To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: Re: Configuring a Firewall to prefer certain traffic...
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>Am 29. Apr, 2001 schwäzte Jiva DeVoe so:
>
> > Is it possible to configure a linux firewall to prefer traffic from a
> > certain host? In other words, if you have 2 hosts on a network, and
> > one is doing a download, if the second one starts something up, it
> > will *NOT* be affected by the download on the first box, but the first
> > box's traffic will slow down to allow the second one through?
>
># Speed up telnet and ssh connects
># ipchains -A ext-in -p TCP -s 0/0 23 -t 0x01 0x10
># ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -d 0/0 23 -t 0x01 0x10
>ipchains -A ext-in -p TCP -s 0/0 22 -t 0x01 0x10
>ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -d 0/0 22 -t 0x01 0x10
>
>
># Make pop, ftp, nntp low priority
>ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -d 0/0 ftp-data -t 0x01 0x02
>ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -d 0/0 pop3 -t 0x01 0x02
>ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -d 0/0 nntp -t 0x01 0x02
>#ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -y -d 0/0 www -t 0x01 0x02
>#ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -d 0/0 4000 -t 0x01 0x02
>
>That's supposed to work for services. I'd suppose you could get it to
>prefer certain IPs. Never checked to see if it really works.
>
>Then again, I get fairly decent ssh performance connecting to a host on
>speed choice one way from a ricochet.
>
>ciao,
>
>der.hans
>--
># der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.YourCompanyHere.net
>;-)
># A t-shirt a day keeps the noose (tie) away. - der.hans
>
>
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>Message: 12
>Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 00:49:39 -0700 (MST)
>From: "der.hans" <PLUGd@LuftHans.com>
>To: PLUG Discuss <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
>Subject: Re: SMTP Server
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>Am 29. Apr, 2001 schwäzte Jay so:
>
> > However, the message never arrives. Yet, when I startup
>sendmail||postfix
> > for a few minutes, then it sends out the previously written message.
> >
> > So, it would seem that what I compose with the "mail" command is just
> > queued, waiting for me to startup a MTA.
>
>Check your crons. Your MTA should run every 15 minutes to clean up the
>queues even if the daemon insn't up to allow incoming mail.
>
> > Is there a way to get the "mail" command to send a 'single-serving'
>
>rm -f /usr/bin/mail
>ln -s /usr/bin/pine /usr/bin/mail
>
>:)
>
>Actually, though, I thought mail attempted to call sendmail, which would
>then automagically send the mail out. In any case the queue cron should
>catch it.
>
>ciao,
>
>der.hans
>--
># der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.Aligo.com
># kill telnet, long live ssh - der.hans
>
>
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>Message: 13
>Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 01:37:16 -0700 (MST)
>From: Jay <jay@kinetic.org>
>To: PLUG Discuss <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
>Subject: Re: SMTP Server
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>
>
>
>Actually, your reply reminded me of something strange (read: stupid) I
>noticed. When I issued "/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail start" it actually
>started postfix (damn Mandrake). The script was set to do sendmail, and
>/usr/sbin/sendmail was not a link to postfix. Come to find out, the
>sendmail binary had been replaced (during the install, because I now
>recall this happening on another MDK system too) with a binary script to
>call postfix. A simple:
>
>rpm -e postfix
>rpm -Uvh --force 3-SENDMAIL-RPMS.rpm
>
>...and its working beautifully now. Thanks! :)
>
>~Jay
>
>
>
>On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, der.hans wrote:
>
> > Am 29. Apr, 2001 schwäzte Jay so:
> >
> > > However, the message never arrives. Yet, when I startup
>sendmail||postfix
> > > for a few minutes, then it sends out the previously written message.
> > >
> > > So, it would seem that what I compose with the "mail" command is just
> > > queued, waiting for me to startup a MTA.
> >
> > Check your crons. Your MTA should run every 15 minutes to clean up the
> > queues even if the daemon insn't up to allow incoming mail.
> >
> > > Is there a way to get the "mail" command to send a 'single-serving'
> >
> > rm -f /usr/bin/mail
> > ln -s /usr/bin/pine /usr/bin/mail
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Actually, though, I thought mail attempted to call sendmail, which would
> > then automagically send the mail out. In any case the queue cron should
> > catch it.
> >
> > ciao,
> >
> > der.hans
> >
>
>
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