Linux Job Order
Jarvis Mark-MC33419
Mark.Jarvis@motorola.com
Tue, 30 May 2000 17:23:19 -0700
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RE 40+ & resumes:
$0.02 from a 60+ guy with 35 years programming and LanAdmin/SysAdmin
experience who recently went through the find-a-job exercise. Compressing
30+ years of experience into 1.5 pages is very different from stretching 3
years experience to look like ten so you can fill up those 1.5 pages and
calls for a totally different approach to the resume. I arranged mine by
category--Sys/LanAdmin, OS-es, languages, teaching, awards, etc. and
compressed the heck out of it. I also had some excellent help from one of
the folks in the outplacement firm. I also constantly revised--"Do you have
any background in _____?" Hmmmm, some, but not as much as some other
things--guess I'd better mention it too. I also tried to use the TLAs and
hot-button buzzwords as much as possible, on advice from several people.
Must've done something right--I found a good job!
FWIW, most technical people are NOT wordsmiths--get competent help on the
wording, etc. of your resume--it's worth it!
-mj-
-----Original Message-----
From: Furmanek, Greg [mailto:Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 4:25 PM
To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
Subject: RE: Linux Job Order
I do not think you should lie, but leaving out irrelevant
information and shortening the resume makes sense.
Someone told me a resume should catch an eye in the
first paragraph and fit on one page. I personally
know managers who move 3 page resume at the bottom of
the pile so they do not have to read it right now.
The Wolf.
BTW good article about getting jobs and negotiating
the terms of employment:
Negotiating for Nerds:
http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/05/20/958881540.html
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph T. Tannenbaum [mailto:tannenba@futureone.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 2:30 PM
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Anthony,
Does that mean we should lie, leave out, etc?
Joe
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From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Anthony
Walsh
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 11:30 AM
To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Linux Job Order
As a recruiter I do work with people that are 40+ in years. If I have one
suggestion to people who fall into that category(40+) it would be to only
list what you've done in the last 5 to 6 years. What disqualifies many of
my 40+ candidates is a resume that has 15 to 20+ years experience working
with computers.
So far my organization hasn't identified any qualified candidates to fill
the Linux programmer position. I guess I'm throwing my fishing pole into
the lake to see if anyone will bite. I appreciate your suggestions that
have been listed, and any future suggestions that you may have. Please feel
free to call me if anyone has a few minutes to talk to help me out.
Anthony G. Walsh
IT Connections
602-240-7711 Ext. 11#
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