What shell we do with the Microsoft.....

Mike Sheldon msheldon@desertraven.com
Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:59:20 -0700


>>their prices are way too high.  An office97 upgrade costs
more than my office95 did to begin with, never mind office 2000<<

Actually, prices are down since Microsoft got into the market.

In 1990, a standalone copy of Word Perfect cost $800+, upgrade versions were
$250 or more. And this was for a product that had slightly more
functionality than Wordpad. Only pros could afford decent word-processors
ten years ago.

Michael J. Sheldon
Internet Applications Developer
Phone: 480.699.1084
http://www.desertraven.com/
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-----Original Message-----
From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Joseph
T. Tannenbaum
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 12:48
To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Subject: RE: What shell we do with the Microsoft.....


I agree to this.  We maybe don't realize it, but when they took up explorer,
and integrated it into the OS, it made netscape get on the stick and improve
their product and crashed some others.  I haven't heard anything from mosaic
lately.  By integrating their products, they have jumped ahead quite a bit.
My main bitch with them is they let the people test their product after it
is released, they sell you what should have been in the package originally
(Win95 PLUS!) and their prices are way too high.  An office97 upgrade costs
more than my office95 did to begin with, never mind office 2000


Joe

> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Mark R.
> Myers
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 9:02 PM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: What shell we do with the Microsoft.....
>
>
> My vote is to do nothing and leave Microsoft alone.
> No one put a gun to anyone's head and said that they had to purchase a
> Microsoft product.
> No tobacco company got someone addicted to nicotine against their will.
> With the AOL/Time Warner merger, it will make them a much larger company
> than Microsoft and should provide some formidable competition.
> I like free software, but more importantly, I love free enterprise.
> I say, let the buying public decide, not a judge.
> There were no lawsuits by Sony when the VHS format (invented by JVC) beat
> out Betamax, even though Betamax was a better product.
> I say, let the market decide. Let the people decide.
> There are some Microsoft products that I do like.
> Microsoft gave me a free copy of Windows2000 Professional (see, they are
> getting into free software! :-)  )
> IMHO, it is the best OS that they have put out yet.
> But again, let the people decide.
> I DO NOT like Microsoft's businesses practices. I think Bill
> Gates' parents
> never taught him how to "play nice."
> But there are other companies that I don't like their business practices
> too.
> I purchased SuSE 6.3 (I will give all of the disks away free to anyone who
> wants them).
> For some reason, I could not get it to print.
> I never had that problem with any other brand of Linux.
> When I contacted customer service via e-mail concerning the issue, as a
> registered SuSE users, I was informed that basic customer service did not
> include the ability to make your computer able to print.
> I am sorry, but I think that printing is one of the main reasons PCs took
> off in the first place. I consider printing to be a "basic need" of an
> operating system.
> So I disagree. I think Microsoft should be scolded for predatory business
> practices, and that is that. Let the buyers decided.
> I guess I'm just too much a disciple of Milton Freedman economics.
> Mark
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Furmanek, Greg" <Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 3:01 PM
> Subject: What shell we do with the Microsoft.....
>
>
> > I have great suggestion how to equalize the market MS
> > is monopolizing!!!
> >
> > Fine MS $15,000,000,000.00 and donate the money to
> > Free Software Foundation!!!!
> >
> > The Wolf
> >
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