Summer on PCs

Mark Peoples Mark.Peoples@asu.edu
Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:51:37 -0700


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ditch the ether.  =)

link coming your way

marco

-----Original Message-----
From: J.L.Francois [mailto:frenchie@magusnet.gilbert.az.us]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:51 PM
To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Re: Summer on PCs


It seems like on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 02:27:35PM -0700, Armin Hartinger
scribbled:
Orig Msg> I'd like to move my constantly-running Linux server into the
garage. One
Orig Msg> less humming noise-maker in the house. Now the question to those
Orig Msg> Arizonians is, if any of you has experience with running PCs at
such
Orig Msg> high environment temperatures.
Orig Msg> 
Orig Msg> Temperature is the biggest issue. Of course, I'd try to pick
components
Orig Msg> which aren't already running hot (so no o/ced CPUs, 10K SCSI
drivers or
Orig Msg> similar). Still, the question remains if maybe the whole attempt
to run
Orig Msg> a PC with standard office components at outside temperatures isn't
Orig Msg> entirely futile.
Orig Msg> 
Orig Msg> Any experiences?
Orig Msg> 
Orig Msg> -Armin
Orig Msg> 

I am currently in the process of converting a refrigirator to being a server
cabinet for
9 servers in my garage.

Due to the nature of refrigerators being designed to keep cold in and air
out,
I am learning how to drill just the right holes to have 1 cable in for power
and 1 cable out for Ethernet and still keep the integrity of the fridge.

That is the only thing slowing me down since I only want to cut once 
without hitting any internal coils.

I tested the unit for condensation by putting in 2 motherboards overnight
and then pulled them out. The freezer gets too cold for PC equipment but
the bottom half is ok.
Just to be safe I plan on putting in baking soda and some dessicant in the
fridge
section.

Used fridges are dirt cheap.

I'll make sure to put pictures on my website when it is complete.

Jean Francois - JLF Sends...
President & CEO - MagusNet, Inc., MagusNet.com, MagusNet.Gilbert.AZ.US
MagusNet, Inc. - Design * Develop * Integrate
Director Of Managed Services - OpNIX,Inc., www.opnix.com
OpNIX - Simply Better Bandwidth
602-770-JLF1 - Cellular, ICQ:  8137851
My Certifications: http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=1214021
Doing my part to educate the Clubie Illiterati.  One LART at a time!


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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>ditch the ether.&nbsp; =3D)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>link coming your way</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>marco</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: J.L.Francois [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:frenchie@magusnet.gilbert.az.us">mailto:frenchie@magusnet=
.gilbert.az.us</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 4:51 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Summer on PCs</FONT>
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<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>It seems like on Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 02:27:35PM =
-0700, Armin Hartinger scribbled:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; I'd like to move my constantly-running =
Linux server into the garage. One</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; less humming noise-maker in the house. =
Now the question to those</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; Arizonians is, if any of you has =
experience with running PCs at such</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; high environment temperatures.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; Temperature is the biggest issue. Of =
course, I'd try to pick components</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; which aren't already running hot (so no =
o/ced CPUs, 10K SCSI drivers or</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; similar). Still, the question remains =
if maybe the whole attempt to run</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; a PC with standard office components at =
outside temperatures isn't</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; entirely futile.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; Any experiences?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; -Armin</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Orig Msg&gt; </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am currently in the process of converting a =
refrigirator to being a server cabinet for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>9 servers in my garage.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Due to the nature of refrigerators being designed to =
keep cold in and air out,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am learning how to drill just the right holes to =
have 1 cable in for power</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and 1 cable out for Ethernet and still keep the =
integrity of the fridge.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>That is the only thing slowing me down since I only =
want to cut once </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>without hitting any internal coils.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I tested the unit for condensation by putting in 2 =
motherboards overnight</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and then pulled them out. The freezer gets too cold =
for PC equipment but</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the bottom half is ok.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Just to be safe I plan on putting in baking soda and =
some dessicant in the fridge</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>section.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Used fridges are dirt cheap.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'll make sure to put pictures on my website when it =
is complete.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Jean Francois - JLF Sends...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>President &amp; CEO - MagusNet, Inc., MagusNet.com, =
MagusNet.Gilbert.AZ.US</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>MagusNet, Inc. - Design * Develop * Integrate</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Director Of Managed Services - OpNIX,Inc., =
www.opnix.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>OpNIX - Simply Better Bandwidth</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>602-770-JLF1 - Cellular, ICQ:&nbsp; 8137851</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>My Certifications: <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=3D1214021" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=3D1214021=
</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Doing my part to educate the Clubie =
Illiterati.&nbsp; One LART at a time!</FONT>
</P>
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