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Author: Stephen Partington
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Subject: Re: Vocational Rehab
ADD can be great for Software engineering, but very challenging for
Waterfall testing cycles. however If you document your code and what you
are doing you can still code quite nicely.

In It you will have similar mundane things where the ADD kicks in and make
it challenging. Having lived with ADD since i was a tot and being a 20+
year IT professional it will be an issue with technology. always.

That being said, pursue what draws an interest. this will give you that
extra oopmf that makes overcoming your ADD etc much much easier. If it is
code, do it. If it is IT, do it.

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 1:06 AM, Eric Oyen <> wrote:

> another area of interest could be database management, especially on older
> oracle based database systems (like 11g). there is a shortage of people
> there as well.
>
> -eric
> from the central office of the technomage Guild, Vital Statistics
> management.
>
> On Oct 17, 2017, at 12:44 AM, David Schwartz wrote:
>
> I don’t mind talking with you, but I think you’re being given some rather
> biased advice by someone who probably has no experience in the field.
>
> Programmers as a whole tend to be introverts and rather anti-social. At
> least us older folks fit that mold. The younger ones are a bit more
> sociable.
>
> With your background, you don’t need a CS degree. Just get some
> specialized training in some language and platform that’s hot right now
> that you can get lost working on for a while, and you’ll be set.
>
> Just try to avoid the web arena. I work in Delphi, which is Pascal. I’m
> left alone to work by myself most of the time. In fact, I’m working at a
> place righ tnow where my boss is in Baltimore and I’m in Phoenix. Nobody
> here in Phoenix deals with me in the office. It’s rather strange. I don’t
> know why they hired me to work out of this office, but that’s what they
> wanted.
>
> Web developer … no. No, no, no! Too many short-turn high-tension projects
> with constantly conflicting requirements. And it often involves the
> programmer working closely with a graphic artist (unless you do both).
>
>
> Consider this: anything that gets you maintaining legacy code would
> probably be a good position for you. COBOL, FORTRAN, Delphi/Pascal, MUMPS /
> Caché
>
> These are skill sets that employers need to fill on a regular basis, and
> they’re getting harder and harder to find even minimally qualified people.
> I worked at a place a few years ago and they hired kids out of college with
> Liberal Arts degrees and put them into a 12-month training program teaching
> them MUMPS. Why? Because there’s no way to learn it otherwise. They
> couldn’t find anybody to hire!
>
> You might wonder, who the heck is using MUMPS today? Believe it or not,
> the entire US Dept. of Veterans Affairs is powered by MUMPS / Caché on the
> back-end, and Delphi on the front-end! The place I’m at now uses Caché, in
> fact. It’s an old legacy healthcare data system.
>
> (MUMPS was originally developed to run on a Borrough’s mainframe computer
> that was built to support the needs of hospitals. That was the 1970’s. Here
> we are nearly 50 years later, and the VA is probably the biggest MUMPS (and
> Delphi) user in the world. It ain’t going away any time soon.)
>
> You might or might not be a good fit for a maintenance role, but if you
> are, learn one of these older languages and it could end up being a really
> good gig for you.
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
>
> On Oct 16, 2017, at 10:09 PM, trent shipley <>
> wrote:
>
> Dear plug-discuss,
>
> I currently work as a telephone customer service representative. There are
> no sales, but I still hate it, it pays poorly, and I'm bad at it.
>
> I have three disabilities, I'm bipolar (well treated with medication),
> autistic (high functioning), and I have attention deficit disorder. (Also,
> I'm 50, which is effectively another disability.) Three disabilities is
> enough to qualify for Vocational Rehabilitation services from the State.
>
> I like programming. I'd like to be in IT, I think. I had a couple years of
> experience back between 2000 and 2002, mostly writing SQL queries in
> Oracle. I have a BA with majors in history (3.5 GPA) and math (2.25 GPA),
> an MA in anthropology, and unsuccessful attempt at a PhD in anthropology,
> an MS in information management, and a community college Certificate of
> Completion in computer programming (CIS department, not CS).
>
> There are two major barriers to my getting a job as a programmer. First,
> it seems to involve way too much interaction with people for an autistic
> person. Second, it requires a four year degree and internships. Voc Rehab
> doesn't want to pay for it, and I can't pay for it myself.
>
> So the option of web developer came up. The Labor Department's web site
> said you could qualify to enter work as a web developer with a post-high
> school certificate. Unfortunately, I suspect that being a web developer
> requires even more people contact than being a programmer.
>
> Nevertheless, my assignment for the week is to talk to two web developers.
> I'd appreciate any contacts list members could provide that would be
> willing to provide a 20 minute interview about their work, either web
> developers or programmers with less than a BS.
>
> Regards and thanks,
>
> Trent Shipley
> (junk e-mail account)
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