AZ Developer Wages, per Feds

[Ryan Petris]

I'm pretty certain that anyone directly involved with that was prosecuted in some way, including developers that knowingly helped.

On Thu, Apr 25, 2024, at 2:47 PM, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:
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> Has anyone worked in foreign country like Germany as a developer or IT personal?
> I wonder how they treat workers and the quality usually is pretty good for the end product.
> They were so good they were able to fix the computer system for the VWs to not work during emissions tests so they could pass easily.
> Volkswagen emissions scandal - Wikipedia <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal>
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> Volkswagen emissions scandal - Wikipedia
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> On Thursday, April 25, 2024 at 02:43:46 PM MST, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
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> I’ve worked at plenty of places that are more like what you’re saying about FB, but they weren’t working on ISO 900x and CMMI certifications.
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> I was simply reflecting on the fact that we’ve got a lot of national Headquarters for companies here in the Phoenix area that ARE working on these certifications, and this has a certain depressing effect on wages when their goal is to make people in the same roles interchangeable. That’s what these efforts are all about — minimizing risk and reducing costs.
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> They’re turning programming into a far less creative endeavor. That requires a more mechanized approach and less variability among workers.
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> Maintenance programmers are simply required to take a bug ticket submitted with a documented way to reproduce the error and fix it without altering any other code.
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> -David Schwartz
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>> On Apr 25, 2024, at 1:51 PM, Ryan Petris <ryan at petris.net> wrote:
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>> I can't say I've worked anywhere as strict as that, however I'll say that like any other career field, there are good and bad work places. Places that like to overly restrict things are going to lose good developers, and likely don't pay well to begin with.
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>> I worked for Meta/Facebook for a year before I got laid off last year, and I'll say that it was very much not like this. While you had regular projects and whatnot going on, you were free to make changes you thought were necessary or good changes to make. Now I didn't work on anything public facing, as I'm certain there are certain controls on making changes to what users can see, but otherwise any change just required approval from any other developer, and it would make it into production 6 hours or so later.
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