I read chip maker TSMC is a sweatshop

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Don't make me cry!!

On 2023-07-07 14:09, George Toft via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> The only shortage that exists is technical people with Bachelors 
> Degrees willing to work for minimum wage.
> 
> Case in point.  My employer is required to post HR crap in the public 
> spaces (break rooms).  One of the posts showed Tata Consultancy was 
> providing a DBA for $66K/year.  Tata takes 1/3 (typical), so the 
> resource is getting $44K/year ($22/hr).  My kids make more than that 
> with a High School education.  This is what the young people are 
> competing against, so why go into this field?
> 
> Another case in point.  My job got outsourced to Argentina and the 
> resources were getting $6/hr.  I later heard it got raised to $10/hr.  
> That was still 1/4 of what I was making.  Even if the Argentinians 
> screwed up and had to rework a task, the company still saved 50% over 
> hiring an American on that task, and they are elated at the cost 
> savings.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> George Toft
> 
> On 6/7/2023 3:29 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> On 2023-06-07 13:59, James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> Generally, if I hear it from cable news, there's a good chance it's
>>> just someone drumming up support for something.  In this case, we'll
>>> probably hear about some kind of H1B system to make sure the new fabs
>>> get all the people they need, etc.  Same deal as when I was working 
>>> at
>>> a company that got bought by Dell, and they failed to retain most of
>>> the new employees because they didn't have a structure that worked
>>> with professionals.  Suddenly you saw Michael Dell doing an interview
>>> on CNBC about the need to extend H1B 'cause they aren't getting 
>>> enough
>>> workers.  At the very least, there's plenty of incentive to drive 
>>> down
>>> labor costs.  And with the halts for new housing going out, there is 
>>> a
>>> LOT of incentive to manipulate the market.
>>> 
>>> Am I being paranoid?  I probably need to touch more grass.
>> 
>> Are you getting too paranoid?  Maybe not.  I quit following the news 
>> because I think most are fearmongering and not talking and working on 
>> the real problems.
>> 
>> I personally do not like the H1B visas because I do not think they are 
>> necessary. If there is really a shortage of tech workers then why is 
>> there not a few major tech universities?  Why does Gates exploit the 
>> H1B and not create a really great tech university? And why do the 
>> politicians allow all of this?
>> 
>> We have all we need right here in our 50 states, so why do we not do 
>> things that benefit ourselves and possibly others?
>> 
>> These people like Michael Dell, Bill Gates, etc have forgotten where 
>> they came from.
>> 
>> QUESTION?
>> 
>> I understand TSMC produces the most chips in the world, and is located 
>> in Taiwan .  Where did they get that technology and who paid for that 
>> technology?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 1:15 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss
>>> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Don't believe everything you read on the internet.  I've read that
>>>> Abraham Lincoln blames Donald Trump for giving the gun to John
>>>> Wilkes Booth.
>>>> 
>>>> On 6/6/23 17:45, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>> Chip maker TSMC is moving to chandler and I have read they are a
>>>>> sweatshop....
>>>>> 
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