GNOME or KDE?

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Heartbreaking story Michael!!

Lots of good feedback.  To the person offering to teach me a workflow if 
I touch type, thank you very much.  I have been trying to convert to 
touch typing.... I am close but type extremely slow when touch typing.  
I hunt and peck most of the time.

Since I really like Ubuntu for LAMP servers I'm thinking I might jump 
back into Linux on my desktop by starting with Kubuntu.  I tried Kubuntu 
probably 6 years ago or longer and did not like it that much.  I figure 
that is a good place to start.

Thanks for all the feedback!!






On 2022-03-24 18:14, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> I never know on which monitor an application will launch in after I
> start it.
> 
> Funny, this is one of my biggest complaints about KDE since the 4.x
> days.  I use a thunderbolt dock for my 2 external displays, and
> occasionally will lose power or accidentally wiggle the laptop too
> much, power down the displays, or just want to save on power/heat to
> power off myself, all hell breaks loose.  Often once they come back
> up, it'll do some random combination of one or all of 1) reverse the
> order of the displays, 2) reset all settings of my displays (like
> resolution/hz), 3) jumble every damn window of mine to random places,
> 4) move everything to one display only, and 5) resize all my windows
> only on my 3rd display only to be 1px wide.  This is a 4k monitor with
> not very thick window borders to begin with to do so!
> 
> Freakin' maddening, particularly #5 makes me want 5 finger death punch
> my display when I have to manually resize a few dozen windows on it!
> Even worse about #5 above, once I resize the window, if I try to move
> the window vs. resize it, it snaps like a rubberband to be 1px wide
> again.  What the hell would you even begin with to troubleshoot
> *that*?.  Is it kde base, kwin, video drivers/card, hdmi vs.
> displayport, mesa, or xorg?  They all blame each other, or me for
> being fancy with my hardware, so I gave up trying.
> 
> Trying to describe these to resolve in a bugtracker only nets me
> somewhere between a confused wtf sort of answer or "ohh, mr fancy with
> 3x 4k displays, none of us have that to test with, sorry not sorry".
> It's like that Dave Chappelle episode teaching customer service at the
> printers, "If the customer says they have windows, tell them you only
> know mac.  If they say they have mac, tell them you only know windows.
>  If they say they have windows and mac, tell them you only know
> linux!"
> 
> I've tried gnome shell (hate it), cinnamon (tolerate it, has it's own
> display issues), mate (like it, but missing functionality I'm used to
> in Cinnamon and/or KDE), and unity (hated it, thankfully rip), still
> come back to KDE even with maddening persistent multi-monitor flaws
> for well over a decade now.  I've tried xfce, i3, some others, but
> just never "got it".  I am not a developer and understand why they
> prefer the tiling - I just don't work that way 98% of the time.  I
> move windows lots, and keep a lot of apps open buried in layers,
> calling them forth from my dock as needed, for that KDE + Cairo-Dock
> work great, so long as I keep the displays powered up 24/7.
> 
> -mb
> 
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 2:40 PM Jim via PLUG-discuss
> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> 
>> I have Kubuntu installed on my machine.  I like it but the only
>> thing
>> that bugs me about KDE is that I have 2 monitors on this machine and
>> I
>> never know on which monitor an application will launch in after I
>> start it.
>> 
>> On 3/22/22 15:23, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> In the past there has been some discussion about which is better
>> GNOME
>>> or KDE?  I like Mint and I see it offers MATE (a fork of GNOME 2)
>> or
>>> Cinnamon (a fork of GNOME 3).  It has been years and I think I
>>> selected Cinnamon for my desktop.
>>> 
>>> Does it matter?
>>> 
>>> I tried Ubuntu and I did not like it for my workstation.  However
>> for
>>> servers I only want Ubuntu.
>>> 
>>> Thanks!!
>>> 
>>> PS I'm on a mission and might have dozens of questions.  Thank you
>> in
>>> advance!!
>>> 
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