ot - gas price

Sun Mar 20 13:44:24 MST 2022

Anytime government gets involved there is a high potential for problems. 
  Not sure rent control is the answer. Other than rent control what is 
your suggestion?

On 2022-03-17 16:46, Harold Hartley via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> I know how bad the homelessness is getting. Lots of young people that
> can work or bettering themselves won't look for work or better
> themselves because they think they can bum more money from drivers at
> intersection that what you can make at a job. Lots of those young
> people are becoming destructive towards other people property like
> it's a big thrill to them and at most bus stops it's getting dangerous
> just trying to go past a bus stop when in a wheelchair. I'm in a
> wheelchair and have to go past those stops just to go to the store..I
> also see elderly people living on the streets because their rents were
> jacked up to force them out so Landlords can fix them up to have high
> paying tenants. Phoenix doesn't have rent control and there is a big
> shortage in fire and police officers too.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, at 16:01, greg zegan via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> On top of that in case you haven't noticed the homeless population has
>> exploded in the Phoenix area.
>> Try ridding the bus-public transportation, with these people who sadly
>> in some cases haven't had a bath
>> or shower in some time.
>> 
>> Its really sad that the American culture has been broken so badly that
>> one has to help others see what
>> is in plain sight.  We live adjacent to a state with arguably the 
>> worst
>> homeless population in the country.
>> 
>> Have you ever stopped to ask yourself or others what is the cause of
>> all this???????
>> 
>> High gas prices.
>> unaffordable housing.
>> many households living paycheck to paycheck.
>> explosion in crime.
>> explosion in homelessness.
>> recreational drug use on the rise for a civilization like ours and you
>> think this is normal?
>> 
>> $14 Billion in aid to Ukraine while all this is happening?
>> Where is that money going?
>> How about a hired mercenary army to fight Russia per the refuges from
>> the Middle East.
>> Why do you think they pushed for EU to take in refuges from the middle
>> East?
>> By the way, EU doesn't have children like the previous generations did
>> and thee now
>> know it takes at least 2.0 children per couple to keep an empire alive
>> so these people
>> from Africa and others are nothing but blood and treasure to these
>> neo-cons.
>> 
>> Tech people are usually some of the smartest in a civilization
>> historically speaking.
>> As per Thucydides the country that rules in technology rules the 
>> world.
>> 
>> Surely the breadth  and width of your understanding goes further than
>> these few talking points.
>> 
>> How about this.
>> There is a real effort to turn us all in the West into a Socialistic
>> civilization based on Plato's Republic.
>> Democracy?
>> Try a empire ruled by a Philosopher king as he stated in his book.  
>> The
>> problem is there is no person
>> on this earth that is perfect and never will be.  We have a Republic,
>> not a Democracy in the USA.
>> 
>> Dig a little deeper and try a little harder to understand your world.
>> If you don't find the truth there are
>> many out there looking for the naïve to take advantage of.
>> 
>> Plato's Republic.
>> Plato's Meno.
>> Plato's Timaeus.
>> Plato's Protagoras.
>> St. Augustine's City of God.
>> Aristotle's Ethics.
>> Jean-Jacques Rousseau - The Social Contract.
>> Jean-Jacques Rousseau - Discourse on Inequality.
>> 
>> 
>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 03:35:25 PM MST, JD Austin
>> <jd at twingeckos.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> It hasn't been near $2 a gallon for 1.5 years.
>> https://gasprices.aaa.com/?state=AZ
>> https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:31 PM greg zegan <gjzegan at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Are you kidding?
>>> just over a year ago it was under $2 a gallon.
>>> furthermore, who is going to commute to work in Phoenix in the coming 
>>> months?
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022, 03:22:12 PM MST, JD Austin via 
>>> PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I just paid $4.49 at Costco which was only .07/gallon less than 
>>> surrounding gas stations :(
>>> I can only hope our national politicians pull their heads from their 
>>> rectum and open domestic oil production again soon.
>>> They're blaming Ukraine, but it was already approaching $4 before 
>>> Russian invaded.
>>> If anyone had doubts that overreliance on foreign supply chains could 
>>> be problematic, the last several years should have made it clear.
>>> I feel really sorry for poor people... how are they coping with these 
>>> price increases everywhere?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 12:47 PM Michael via PLUG-discuss 
>>> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>> What is gas going for in arizona? It is around 4 a gallon in 
>>>> florida.
>>>> 
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