Domain Registering and Hosting/Website Funny Business

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On 2022-07-22 19:01, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> In my experience, when a domain goes up for grabs, the registrar
> basically usurps it and auctions it off with first right of refusal
> having it under their stewardship in the first place as registrar.  I
> saw this with butash.com [1], of which I own .net and .org, but the
> dude that owned .com was old, and I think died finally.  I had a
> godaddy domain update and saw it go up for sale as an auction on
> verisign, where he had it registered all these years (guess he never
> heard he could get a much better deal elsewhere).  Some dude outbid me
> for like 700 bucks, said screw it, not that much worth it.  Some year
> or so later had a buddy hit him up (so as not from butash.net [2] for
> obvious value), but the scab came back "we'll start bidding at $35K".
> He's been sitting on it since as I didn't put his kids through college
> and apparently no one else in my lineage has either.
> 

There is a couple domains I'd like to get that are being held w/o being 
used. A domain is only what someone is willing to pay for it.


> So yes, verisign, godaddy, etc will all grab your shiz and sell it out
> from under you if they can, then the domain hoarder scabs soak them up
> hoping someone wants it back bad enough.  Vermin, the whole lot, like
> zombies roaming the streets for brains.  I was working at godaddy when
> Parsons figured out it'd be a huge market to do domain auctions and
> started that back in the day.  I thought it was scummy having worked
> for him then, and didn't work for him much longer after.

I worked for GD in the very early days.  Learned a lot and got a bunch 
of experience talking tech to non-technical people.  Helped me 
tremendously when I started freelancing.  The GD experience was hell 
though. Back then they fired people for little cause and the call center 
manager was a bully.

The thing I am really wondering about is how this dude was able to 
transfer my friends website and content from my friend's hosting to his 
hosting.  This has to be a copyright violation.  What say you?

> 
> -mb
> 
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 6:45 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a friend who owned http://www.nationwidedr.com/ .  It expired
>> 
>> along with his hosting while he was in the hospital.
>> 
>> I get the domain was available to be registered.
>> 
>> Here is the interesting part.  Somehow the new domain owner also was
>> 
>> able to get his WordPress website complete with all of his business
>> content.  It appears not to have been changed.
>> 
>> The other part is the domain shows it was registered in 2002, the
>> original date it was registered.  I thought when a domain expires
>> and is
>> re-registered by another it will show it was original registered on
>> that
>> second date.  Am I wrong?
>> 
>> Thoughts on how the new registrant got a hold of my friends
>> WordPress
>> website?
>> 
>> The domain and hosting were at GoDaddy.
>> 
>> Something seems fishy - am I wrong?
>> 
>> Thanks!!
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> [2] http://butash.net
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