4-year Programing and Analytics degree from Mesa CC

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Hi Trent,

I apologize up front.

Question : What do you want to accomplish?

I know my experience is anecdotal...  And I am anti-university to some 
degree.  Everything I have been doing for the past 20 plus years has 
been self taught. Surprisingly PHP is not used or taught at the 
University level for some reason.  And PHP is used in some form on 
almost 80% of the web.

I learned to program at the JC.

I have both an AAS and a Bachelors degree.  I did not start college 
until after four years in the military.  Almost everything I needed to 
learn in college was learned at the JC.  Going to the University was a 
waste of my time. I acquired debt and lost momentum.

I went to the U because I thought they were going to teach me the secret 
sauce - was none.  I'm not sure why I had to take 8 units of humanities. 
  The only class of value was a 300 level economics class.

Today we have this Inter-Web thing.  Almost everything is at our 
fingertips.  I do lots of searches everyday.  And we have these nice 
user groups like PLUG that can help as well. Last year when I wanted to 
create a home web server I joined the BIND, Postfix, and Dovecot list 
serves.

When I started programming a BS or BA was expected.  Today spend some 
time in the basement doing earnest self study and in 6 months or less 
you can be setting in a cube someplace.

If you know what you want to do find a couple hiring managers willing to 
spend 5 minutes a week to guide you into that niche.  Next thing you 
know you can be an intern then a full-time or part-time, if that is your 
thing, IT worker.

My point going to college to get a degree is not the best approach in my 
mind. Employers are looking for skills not degrees.

And for what it is worth I think it is great the the JCs are offing a 
bachelors degree.  I hope this will bring the universities back into 
alignment with reality.

In 1978 the UofA was charging $275 a semester.

Keith




On 2022-12-23 00:11, trent shipley via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> Does anyone have any news about the Programming and Analytics 4 year
> program they are going to start in Fall 2023 at Mesa CC?   Will it be
> a CS or CIS program, or neither? I got a call and was told it's got
> preliminary accreditation, but the MCCCD board doesn't even know if
> the fees will be different from the standard 2-year degree tuition
> rates. I expect them to be significantly lower than the state
> university tuition rates, as that's rather a major point of the whole
> four-year community college initiative.
> 
> Trent
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