Reliable ISP?

Thu Nov 18 14:41:46 MST 2021

Sorry... who is CL?

On 2021-11-18 14:25, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> You think CBS service is pricey compared to residential?  I pay
> $79/mo for CBS for Internet only.
> 
> Well, admittedly I've not looked at CBS service in a while, I switched
> from Cox to CL a few years ago when they implemented bandwidth caps,
> and never really looked back, but that pricing seems not too bad now.
> Someone probably realized folks were going elsewhere and decided to be
> more competitive, plus with them offering even gig rates over cable,
> 50mbps sounds like crap so they can sell it cheaper, but would
> probably still be adequate for me as that's about what I had on
> residential when I left cox years ago.  My torrents might take a bit
> longer, but that's ok, and I don't have a house of kids (or even
> adults) all streaming netflix at the same time to need more.
> 
> In the past, there was a significant drop in bandwidth for CBS from
> residential services that took it well over 100 bucks (closer to $200)
> to get a comparable CBS circuit, and because they've laxed a lot of
> the port restrictions over the years simply wasn't necessary outside
> maybe support to get someone out same-day if needed.  Even when I
> worked for them I thought it was overpriced.
> 
> I can't complain too much about CL other than lately congestion in the
> evenings I can quantify (which Cox would too), and 125mbps down for
> $55/mo is a win/win in my book over cox at half the bandwidth and
> paying some $25 more per month.  In the few years I've been with them,
> I've had no hard outages either.  I can still https to my firewall for
> vpn, all I really need.  Something to be said for legacy 2-wire
> technology where available if you don't need 100's of mbps or gig
> rates (which most really still don't).
> 
> -mb
> 
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 1:28 PM <techlists at phpcoderusa.com> wrote:
> 
>> You think CBS service is pricey compared to residential?  I pay
>> $79/mo
>> for CBS for Internet only.  I looked into residential a while ago
>> and
>> found that after that initial discount the cost of residential
>> service
>> for just Internet was about the same.
>> 
>> The difference I found was T.V. channels.  The packages differ.
>> 
>> I may have hit my limit with running a server... may not need/want
>> to go
>> any further.  Was satisfying to be able to be able to get things
>> running
>> though. Bind and Postfix/Dovecot where the challenges for me.
>> Especially
>> Postfix/Dovecot.
>> 
>> On 2021-11-18 13:15, Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>> I am told I can rent more static IPs... I assume I will need
>> some
>>> hardware to be able to accommodate more than 1 IP unless I am port
>>> forwarding to different boxes.
>>> 
>>> Not really, just about any *nix-y system can accommodate that with
>> NAT
>>> as a firewall/router/gateway, whatever you want to call it, with
>> one
>>> ip or many.  Even basic WRT-based systems ala netgear/linksys can
>> tend
>>> to handle this in theory with basic network iptables features.
>>> Probably best would be something like pfsync, which there is
>> plenty of
>>> cheap gateway hardware out there that can run it, or any older
>> (ie.
>>> cheap) enterprise firewalls.
>>> 
>>> Old days the biggest reason for multiple ip's was SSL requiring
>> 1:1 IP
>>> to DNS binding, but this has gotten easier out of necessity with
>> use
>>> of Subject Alternative Names (SAN) as part of the certs.  If you
>> need
>>> the same external port being forwarded to multiple internal
>>> ports/services is about the only other reason for multiple ip's,
>> but
>>> as long as you can define separate ports for what is connecting to
>> it,
>>> not so much.
>>> 
>>> When you get to the point you want to do so, more than few of us
>> have
>>> probably done so to help you through it and understand the
>> concepts
>>> once you know what you need/want to do.
>>> 
>>>>> Cox Business does not block any ports.
>>> 
>>> The only residential ports they block really relevant these days
>> is 80
>>> for http (not 443/https, so why 80??), and smtp for email, but
>> these
>>> days there is little reason to run your own smtp server unless
>> you're
>>> just doing it to do it or honeypot spammers trying to hit you 24/7
>> for
>>> no good reasons.  I'd run sslvpn for remote access on https/443
>> just
>>> fine on res service, I just need to make sure to type https://.
>>> 
>>>>> I am satisfied with Cox Business
>>> 
>>> CBS service is just pricey (compared to residential) to begin
>> with,
>>> unlimited bandwidth and unblocked ports or not imho, but otherwise
>>> about the best/cheapest "business class" service/support you can
>> get,
>>> if you can get it in your hood.
>>> 
>>> -mb
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 12:04 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>>> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've had a Cox Business account for maybe 8 years.  I've only had
>>>> one
>>>> outage, and it was short.  My package is a home office type of
>> plan.
>>>> I
>>>> am currently running a LAMP + BIND + Postfix + Dovecot on a
>> laptop
>>>> on my
>>>> single static IP.  I am told I can rent more static IPs... I
>> assume
>>>> I
>>>> will need some hardware to be able to accommodate more than 1 IP
>>>> unless
>>>> I am port forwarding to different boxes.
>>>> I configured this server on a laptop to see if I could do it.  I
>> am
>>>> a
>>>> PHP dev, with some light LAMP server experience.  I still have a
>> lot
>>>> to
>>>> learn.
>>>> 
>>>> Cox Business does not block any ports.
>>>> 
>>>> Cox tells me there will never be any overages because on my plan
>> I
>>>> purchase a set up and down which cannot be exceeded.
>>>> 
>>>> I am satisfied with Cox Business
>>>> 
>>>> On 2021-11-14 11:21, Joe Neglia via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>> Any recommendations for a reliable ISP?
>>>>> 
>>>>> (Couldn't find any recent discussion in the PLUG archives, so am
>>>>> asking here.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I currently have a business account (I'm running a small server
>> on
>>>> a
>>>>> static public IP address for my business), but am having a
>>>> *terrible*
>>>>> time with my current ISP.  Worked *great* for about a year, but
>>>> have
>>>>> been having daily outages for about a month now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don't even want to say the name for fear of being sued for
>> libel.
>>>> They
>>>>> were honest enough to admit it is an "internal issue", and have
>> no
>>>> ETA
>>>>> on a fix.  "[Their] technicians continue to work to resolve the
>>>>> problem in [my] neighborhood.  Currently, there is no estimated
>>>> time
>>>>> for when service will be restored."
>>>>> 
>>>>> I get the feeling they don't have a grasp on the problem, as
>> when
>>>> I
>>>>> call their status line they report an outage even when the
>> system
>>>> is
>>>>> up.  When my connection goes down, a modem reboot sometimes (but
>>>> not
>>>>> always) gets me connected again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Speed is not an issue.  But reliability is!  Any suggestions
>> would
>>>> be
>>>>> greatly appreciated.
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