PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 184, Issue 2

[Michael Butash]

Vendor (ie. not just Cisco) stencils mostly, and fine-grained drawing
detail.  I make fairly detailed drawings of networks, and I've never found
anything that can fully emulate/replace visio for a number of reasons.
They're just never *that* good at it.

I've tried various online solutions like LucidCharts and others, but all
are terrible for various reasons I've found, not from lack of trying.  If I
need to pull in random HP, Cisco, Arista, Fortinet, PAN stencils, most
really don't know what to do with them, or worse break them horribly, or
just crash.  When I try to create granular connection points to ports, it
can't work at that level of detail.  When I try to import a visio with 20
layers per drawing for features, they have no idea what to do with them, or
even replace with a comparable feature.  I just go back to using visio,
make customers happy, and get paid.

Admittedly draw.io is new to me, but will check it out.  I gave up after
the last 3-4 cloud "visio replacements" I tried years ago.  Damn microsoft
again for buying visio.

-mb


On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 8:07 AM Seabass via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

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> I tend to use draw.io for any visio style needs.
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> What kinds of things do you find in visio that you don't find in other
> software?
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> Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 18:05:03 -0700
> From: Michael Butash <michael at butash.net>
> To: PLUG Phoenix List <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
> Subject: Windoze Ameliorated Edition
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> Kind of interesting, I've been testing this lately, and love this inside my
> linux-based virtualbox vm. I use linux as a full-time Arch OS, windoze as
> a vm, but I need Visio as almost the defacto network engineer documentation
> tool since 2000. Paying for Windoze licensing to only call me a pirate
> every few months when I change my VM/hardware and for the past 15+ years of
> using linux for everything, I'm tired
> I found this on Linus Tech Tips, normally he's annoying, but this was
> interesting <https://youtu.be/nwkiU6GG-YU>.
> I only use windoze for visio, project, or other things that really no good
> alternatives exist for (still), so be it. This win10 ameliorated edition
> is great for me, it runs almost like xp speed in doing what I need to do,
> removing all the spyware/telemetry, with at least some modern security, but
> since I don't even enable it's virtual nic, works great. I just share
> files with local folders through the vbox plugins for file access.
> Funny in light of news Microsoft contributing to the Linux kernel to make
> windoze itself a proper hypervisor layer upon linux. It'll end up like
> Android, another bastard running atop a linux kernel, with "alternative"
> licensing means, but seeing I've paid the microsoft tax for 25 years now,
> they owe me, not the other way around.
> As someone that doesn't use microsoft, hates microsoft, wishes they'd sell
> off visio to a proper company as the only thing I use windoze for, I'm
> really liking this. Some quirks, but ping me on the side, I've got it
> working nicely for visio and other things under windoze.
> https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=windows+ameliorated+edition
> -mb
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