standalone mic

Sat Mar 28 18:22:06 MST 2020

If it comes with a dongle, it's likely not bluetooth, thus why it works
better.

Even though natively 99.9% of dongles today use 2.4ghz, they are not all
the same, and definitely not bluetooth.  I have a gaggle of these for
logitech, kensington, and others for my usage, none bluetooth.  If
bluetooth, it should be generic.  Should, like ass-u-me, but still.

I went through this where I was helping out with lync deployments in an
enterprise years ago, and various headset devices, including native mac
book speakers would work like crap with ms lync (go figure).  Lync
certifies their devices to use a particular low-latency, low-loss codec to
do this for usb devices, but were certainly not bluetooth, and if they are
bluetooth, need to conform generically to the version (1.0, 2.1, 3.0, 4.0,
5.0, etc).  If you don't conform to the microsoft codec (and their
licensing), you don't get recommended/certified for enterprise
lync/skype/teams/whatever of theirs to be sold in business.

If it comes with a dongle, the dongle likely just looks like a sound device
to the os, it doesn't care about the wireless here, and stays blissfully
ignorant of hardware doing so.  Most vendors still prefer this for this
reason, they don't have to worry about the os software stack, which with
bluetooth has been shaky even on windoze.

Bluetooth itself is a set of hardware api's defined to the protocol, but
otherwise offer generic attributes for various other protocol interfactions
per OS, like mouse, keyboard, or audio.  If bluetooth, it *should* be
generic for your pc for any hardware, or as much as your OS supports
(linux==crap typically).  Biggest difference in bluetooth is client/server
hardware device codec support for things like apples itunes lot, aptx for
hifi if not apple, or some low-grade 128kb codec for audio being sent.

It gets more interesting as lots of things use BT GATT generic attribute
profiles, and this is how most BT devices get hacked through generic
protocols and overflows in the os stack.

-mb

On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:03 PM Ed <plug at 0x1b.com> wrote:

> You want to use the bluetooth dongle that comes with the mic if it comes
> with one because, I think, there are bluetooth profiles that vendors can
> use that are specifically designed for audio. The chips in your laptop may
> have a profile for a more general use. Not all bluetooth are the same, the
> SIG has several profiles of the spec. that are application specific - like
> fitnes.
>
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 2:26 PM Michael Butash <michael at butash.net> wrote:
>
>> A buddy of mine uses a yeti mic on conference calls like me, and he's got
>> the wrap-around spit/pop sheild on his rig.  It sounded great, so I got to
>> looking around, and the HyperX mic has a built-in anti-pop mechanism that
>> saved on the external unit, better or worse.  Saw new ones for sale on ebay
>> for ~$120 bucks, but I fear audio sync issues with my external speakers and
>> a separate mic as I get whenever I've tried this.  Why I stay with my Jabra
>> conferencing puck as it tends to work well via usb.
>>
>> Monoprice sells various bits like the anti-pop shield, various mics, even
>> higher-end xlr units through their audio production kit.  You can get most
>> everything you need for professional audio cheaply.
>>
>> Wires are the worst for me, I too destroy headsets or anything wired
>> regularly.  Bluetooth always simply sucks to use, especially with linux as
>> an audio device.  Still something linux fails to ever get right.  I began
>> looking for some more professional wireless mic systems to use, but again
>> got exotic quickly that I didn't want to spend 3-4 hundred bucks on
>> marginal increases over my conference puck.  I'd love to hear of a good
>> professional, non-bluetooth wireless setup with some range (around the
>> house), noise cancellation, etc, usb or other.  I still mostly rely on my
>> bose wired headset to my phone for that.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:29 AM David Schwartz <
>> newsletters at thetoolwiz.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 28, 2020, at 12:16 AM, der.hans <PLUGd at LuftHans.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 28. Mar, 2020 schwätzte David Schwartz so:
>>>
>>> moin moin David,
>>>
>>>
>>> A lot of people get these big (4”) round things on a gooseneck that are
>>> suspended in front of the mic. I think they’re pretty silly unless you’re
>>> doing professional-level sound. They’re used as “pop filters”. A foam
>>> windscreen that goes over the mic is just as effective most of the time,
>>> and a lot cheaper.
>>>
>>>
>>> In today's world a big dorky spit guard sounds like a great idea :). I
>>> might get one for wearing when going to the store!
>>>
>>> Mics designed to sit on your desk typically have foam inside the mic. An
>>> external foam windscreen is good today because you can take it off and wash
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>> HAHA! It’s not so much a “spit guard” as for diffusing plosives — Ps,
>>> Ds, Ts, Ks, etc, push out a small blast of air. If you’re close enough to
>>> the mic, it creates a big “boom” of sorts.
>>>
>>> Some people think these things direct sound or do something to make you
>>> sound better. They’re just wind guards when the wind in question is coming
>>> from one direction — your mouth.
>>>
>>> I’ve seen folks set them up on mics several feet away from people, in
>>> front of mics set up to record instruments, etc.
>>>
>>> If you’re not within a couple of feet of the mic and facing it directly,
>>> then they’re useless.
>>>
>>> -David Schwartz
>>>
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