New computer.
Bob Elzer
bob.elzer at gmail.com
Mon Jul 20 09:16:34 MST 2020
Mike, the motherboard will only have 4 slots for memory. If you use 8gb
sticks that means a max of 32 GB. Memory sticks come in 4, 8, 16 and 32gb
sticks. The max memory on the motherboard is 128gb. If you decide you need
more memory than 32gb then you would have to remove some of the 8gb sticks
to replace them with 16 or 32gb sticks the wasting the money you spent on
the 8gb sticks you replaced.
So in my opinion, I would get a 16gb stick instead two ígb sticks. Thus
leaving room to go to 64gb in the future. Ram is always faster than nvme,
SSD and hdd. I don't think you will notice a 17% difference with single
channel mode which is ram speed.
Even if you never get more than 16gb the speed difference is not that
noticeable.
On Sun, Jul 19, 2020, 10:29 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> I don't get it, Bob.
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2020 at 12:24 PM Bob Elzer via PLUG-discuss
> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >
> > My only suggestion on this machine is to use a 16gb stick, just so if
> you ever decide you need more memory you won't have to replace the smaller
> sticks. With 16gb sticks you can have 64gb total. If you ever think you
> might like to have 128gb of memory the you could get a 32gb memory stick.
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 9:29 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just an idea and ballpark cost.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:11 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> yeah? I was planning on doing the enclosure thing powered separately.
> >>> As for whether my USBs are 1 or 2 lshw|grep us seems to indicate I
> >>> only have USB2. But you know what they say.... play with what you
> >>> have!
> >>> *-usb:0
> >>> *-usbhost
> >>> bus info: usb at 1
> >>> logical name: usb1
> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>> *-usb
> >>> bus info: usb at 1:1
> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>> *-usb:1
> >>> *-usbhost
> >>> bus info: usb at 2
> >>> logical name: usb2
> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>> *-usb
> >>> bus info: usb at 2:1
> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>> *-usb:0
> >>> bus info: usb at 2:1.4
> >>> capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
> >>> configuration: driver=btusb speed=12Mbit/s
> >>> *-usb:1
> >>> bus info: usb at 2:1.7
> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>> *-usb:0
> >>> bus info: usb at 2:1.7.2
> >>> capabilities: usb-1.10
> >>> configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA
> >>> speed=2Mbit/s
> >>> *-usb:1
> >>> bus info: usb at 2:1.7.3
> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00
> >>> configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=98mA
> >>> speed=2Mbit/s
> >>> *-usb:2
> >>> bus info: usb at 2:1.7.4
> >>> capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
> >>> configuration: driver=usb-storage
> >>> maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:21 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
> >>> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > It's a good idea, however I don't think a NUC will have a big enough
> >>> > power supply to support that many hard drives. If you could get that
> >>> > many attached to it, it would probably cause the hard drive to fail
> >>> > rather quickly on a NUC. You would need to get some sort of external
> >>> > USB attached hard drive enclosure with it's own power supply to make
> it
> >>> > work right. I would only do that if your NUC has USB3 and the
> enclosure
> >>> > also is USB3. USB2 would just make your storage painfully slow.
> >>> >
> >>> > An NVMe is a new kind of SSD that is essentially attached directly
> to a
> >>> > mini PCIe port. Since it can be accessed at PCIe speeds it isn't
> bottle
> >>> > necked by the SATA bus, so the read speeds are in gigabytes per
> second.
> >>> > Or in other words it makes everything hard drive related happen
> >>> > instantly. Boot times are usually less that 2 to 3 seconds. Login
> >>> > times are virtually instant. When you first get one, you will tell
> your
> >>> > computer to reboot and then wonder why al lt did was logout until you
> >>> > realize that it completely shut down and rebooted to the login
> screen in
> >>> > less time than your old computer could just logout.
> >>> >
> >>> > Brian Cluff
> >>> >
> >>> > On 7/18/20 12:35 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >>> > > Thanks Brian. The hard drive is actually only 5yo with 2 years of
> use.
> >>> > > What is a NVMe? What do you think about what I';m thinking about
> doing
> >>> > > with the NUC?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 3:29 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
> >>> > > <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>> > >> You'll need RAM too... didn't see that in the list.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> I would also make sure that you get a motherboard that has a
> place for
> >>> > >> at least 1 NVMe. Then I would recommend that you get at least one
> >>> > >> NVMe. It doesn't have to be huge, but if you can put at least
> your OS
> >>> > >> on the NVMe, it will make your whole machine feel 50 times faster
> than
> >>> > >> if you keep using a 10 year old hard drive.... Trust me, it will
> be
> >>> > >> worth every cent to get it.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> I would also recommend getting an AMD machine right now. You can
> get a
> >>> > >> whole lot more for your money right now with AMD.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> BTW What's the price range you are looking at spending?
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Brian Cluff
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On 7/17/20 11:11 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> >>> > >>> I think I figured out what I want to do..... I'm going to buy a
> >>> > >>> chassis, motherboard, CPU, and power supply and then
> frankenstein the
> >>> > >>> hard drive, the wireless card, and the video card from the old
> machine
> >>> > >>> (got to do this as cheaply as I can). What else could I
> frankenstein?
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:25 PM Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> > >>>> Wellp, I am going to do something I never have done before.....
> I'm
> >>> > >>>> going to get a new computer. Well I think I'll have one put
> >>> > >>>> together.... I'll put it together. Where would go to get a
> chassis and
> >>> > >>>> motherboard then I'll put all of the other guts in. Is such an
> animal
> >>> > >>>> in existence?I thought of another NUC but they aren't like what
> they
> >>> > >>>> were. Should I wait until black Friday and get a windows
> machine in the sales?
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> --
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