New computer.

Michael bmike1 at gmail.com
Sat Jul 18 09:48:57 MST 2020 

I'm sure it is Brian. Thanks for the ideas Stephen. Unfortunately, my
finances won't swing for that so what I am thinking is to put a RAID
on my NUCand to run that until it dies (like all of my other
equipment.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 12:43 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
<plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
> That looks like an excellent machine and the best part is that in a year or 2 if you want a faster system AMD likes to use the same CPU socket for the majority of their processors and over multiple years, so you can drop their current flagship processor into that came machine and have a much much faster computer.
>
> That's also a good machine since the processor that Stephen chose has a built in GPU that is almost certainly more powerful than your current GPU.
>
> Brian
>
> On 7/18/20 7:47 AM, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>
> Just an idea and ballpark cost.
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020, 6:11 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>> yeah? I was planning on doing the enclosure thing powered separately.
>> As for whether my USBs are 1 or 2 lshw|grep us seems to indicate I
>> only have USB2. But you know what they say.... play with what you
>> have!
>>         *-usb:0
>>            *-usbhost
>>                 bus info: usb at 1
>>                 logical name: usb1
>>                 capabilities: usb-2.00
>>               *-usb
>>                    bus info: usb at 1:1
>>                    capabilities: usb-2.00
>>         *-usb:1
>>            *-usbhost
>>                 bus info: usb at 2
>>                 logical name: usb2
>>                 capabilities: usb-2.00
>>               *-usb
>>                    bus info: usb at 2:1
>>                    capabilities: usb-2.00
>>                  *-usb:0
>>                       bus info: usb at 2:1.4
>>                       capabilities: bluetooth usb-2.00
>>                       configuration: driver=btusb speed=12Mbit/s
>>                  *-usb:1
>>                       bus info: usb at 2:1.7
>>                       capabilities: usb-2.00
>>                     *-usb:0
>>                          bus info: usb at 2:1.7.2
>>                          capabilities: usb-1.10
>>                          configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=100mA
>> speed=2Mbit/s
>>                     *-usb:1
>>                          bus info: usb at 2:1.7.3
>>                          capabilities: usb-2.00
>>                          configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=98mA
>> speed=2Mbit/s
>>                     *-usb:2
>>                          bus info: usb at 2:1.7.4
>>                          capabilities: usb-2.00 scsi emulated scsi-host
>>                          configuration: driver=usb-storage
>> maxpower=100mA speed=480Mbit/s
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 4:21 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
>> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > It's a good idea, however I don't think a NUC will have a big enough
>> > power supply to support that many hard drives.  If you could get that
>> > many attached to it, it would probably cause the hard drive to fail
>> > rather quickly on a NUC.  You would need to get some sort of external
>> > USB attached hard drive enclosure with it's own power supply to make it
>> > work right.  I would only do that if your NUC has USB3 and the enclosure
>> > also is USB3.   USB2 would just make your storage painfully slow.
>> >
>> > An NVMe is a new kind of SSD that is essentially attached directly to a
>> > mini PCIe port.  Since it can be accessed at PCIe speeds it isn't bottle
>> > necked by the SATA bus, so the read speeds are in gigabytes per second.
>> > Or in other words it makes everything hard drive related happen
>> > instantly.  Boot times are usually less that 2 to 3 seconds.  Login
>> > times are virtually instant.  When you first get one, you will tell your
>> > computer to reboot and then wonder why al lt did was logout until you
>> > realize that it completely shut down and rebooted to the login screen in
>> > less time than your old computer could just logout.
>> >
>> > Brian Cluff
>> >
>> > On 7/18/20 12:35 AM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> > > Thanks Brian. The hard drive is actually only 5yo with 2 years of use.
>> > > What is a NVMe? What do you think about what I';m thinking about doing
>> > > with the NUC?
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2020 at 3:29 AM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss
>> > > <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>> > >> You'll need RAM too... didn't see that in the list.
>> > >>
>> > >> I would also make sure that you get a motherboard that has a place for
>> > >> at least 1 NVMe.  Then I would recommend that you get at least one
>> > >> NVMe.  It doesn't have to be huge, but if you can put at least your OS
>> > >> on the NVMe, it will make your whole machine feel 50 times faster than
>> > >> if you keep using a 10 year old hard drive.... Trust me, it will be
>> > >> worth every cent to get it.
>> > >>
>> > >> I would also recommend getting an AMD machine right now.  You can get a
>> > >> whole lot more for your money right now with AMD.
>> > >>
>> > >> BTW  What's the price range you are looking at spending?
>> > >>
>> > >> Brian Cluff
>> > >>
>> > >> On 7/17/20 11:11 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>> > >>> I think I figured out what I want to do..... I'm going to buy a
>> > >>> chassis, motherboard, CPU, and power supply and then frankenstein the
>> > >>> hard drive, the wireless card, and the video card from the old machine
>> > >>> (got to do this as cheaply as I can). What else could I frankenstein?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 10:25 PM Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>>> Wellp, I am going to do something I never have done before..... I'm
>> > >>>> going to get a new computer. Well I think I'll have one put
>> > >>>> together.... I'll put it together. Where would go to get a chassis and
>> > >>>> motherboard then I'll put all of the other guts in. Is such an animal
>> > >>>> in existence?I thought of another NUC but they aren't like what they
>> > >>>> were. Should I wait until black Friday and get a windows machine in the sales?
>> > >>>>
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