Built for Failure

[Todd Cole]

I was incorrect it is a Thecus N5200

On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 9:04 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:

> What model?
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020, 6:30 PM Todd Cole via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> I have been using ZFS almost two years on servers and it is easy to deal
>> with drive replacements. I have even switched my desktops and laptops to
>> ubuntu 20.04 ZFS for the snapshots.
>> Issues are learning ZFS and Raids they are not real hard to learn but
>> then replacing drives as they fail = Time vs money saved Do you have the
>> Time to learn and spend swapping?
>> I have a old synology NAS you or someone  else can have that can be
>> updated to debian and ZFS 5 bay hot swap, great way to start out
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 5:59 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
>> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>> How many drive are you looking to spin up at one time? Across how many
>>> machines?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 30, 2020, 5:39 PM Seabass via PLUG-discuss <
>>> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That is a good question.
>>>> Probably not, though.
>>>>
>>>> Have a software raid version? I need to check what these have, but I
>>>> don't think there is much beyond raid1 and raid0.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>> On Dec 30, 2020, 4:02 PM, Rusty Ramser < rusty_ramser at hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Seabass.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> RAID-6 comes to mind, since it will support two disk failures
>>>> simultaneously... and it sounds like you just may experience that with
>>>> these disks.  Does your disk controller hardware/software support
>>>> configuring a RAID-6 array?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.phxlinux.org] *On
>>>> Behalf Of *Seabass via PLUG-discuss
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 31 December 2020 11:01
>>>> *To:* plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org
>>>> *Cc:* Seabass <PrivateSeaBass at pm.me>
>>>> *Subject:* Built for Failure
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Weird question:
>>>>
>>>> I can get a bunch of ancient (~2013) HDDs. Each have varying amounts of
>>>> space, and few (if any) are ever the same size.
>>>>
>>>> These were marked to be disposed, though that is just because of age or
>>>> having plenty that are better. Thus I can take them. However, them being
>>>> this old, and having found about 3 that eventually broke or never worked,
>>>> I'm left with this question:
>>>>
>>>> Because purchasing new drives takes too long (no idea when/if they
>>>> would arrive), I can take as many of the decommissioned drives I'd like.
>>>> Seeing as some failed, how does one build a system that is resilient to
>>>> drives failing?
>>>>
>>>> It can be reset as much as wanted, hardware is literally in arm's
>>>> reach, and there is not burning need for it to be up immediately.
>>>> There is also massive (comparatively) external drive space and as many
>>>> live boot USBs as one might desire.
>>>>
>>>> So how would one build a system that is designed expecting HDD failure
>>>> regularly?
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