zoom and teams patches

[Michael Butash]

Google has been making news again yesterday/today with Google Meet, giving
free 60min conference calls to folks.  Not used it yet, but probably should
try to see the capabilities.

https://www.blog.google/products/meet/bringing-google-meet-to-more-people/

-mb


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 7:24 AM Michael Butash <michael at butash.net> wrote:

> >  Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI?
>
> Right, not in my 20-some years around Cisco.  Why I don't do much Cisco
> anymore.
>
> Webex finally pulled its head from it's bung a few years back to figure
> out how to do screen sharing AND remote control even on linux, and so far
> for me, is the only other decent/viable conferencing suite outside zoom.  I
> use it with a few customers regularly.  I've read WebEx uses the same kinds
> of "exploiting" the os to launch itself with windows/mac, so same
> shenanigans.  I'd be really interested in seeing someone rip it apart for a
> security audit.
>
> Before Zoom and WebEx figured it out, I was using UberConference for
> years, they were the original I found that could offer sharing, but never
> offered remote control which is almost necessary in my line of work.  I
> really liked the service and company, but no remote control and some other
> quirks (no firefox support a big one) drove me off to zoom finally.
>
> M$ Teams sharing is wonky at best and doesn't allow remote control.
> Microsoft basically throws in the service with o365, so many companies are
> using it by default, and it always is painful.  They even added a linux
> client, but it was poop and doesn't allow for multiple orgs ala slack, or
> about any other chat client known to man.  Last time I tried it a few
> months back, it also began crushing my system's cpu's - quality microsoft,
> thanks for caring about us linux people with your half-assed software.
>
> GotoMeeting still doesn't know what linux is or cares I think, luckily no
> one seems to use them anymore.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:08 PM Donald Mac McCarthy via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>
>> Since when was Cisco known for a "good" UI?
>>
>> Mac
>>
>> der.hans via PLUG-discuss wrote on 4/28/20 10:40 PM:
>>
>> Am 28. Apr, 2020 schwätzte Ryan Petris via PLUG-discuss so:
>>
>> moin moin,
>>
>> That's not entirely true, I use Webex on Linux, including sharing my
>> screen,
>>
>>
>> Yeah, in the end it worked with Firefox. I had to allow some JavaScript,
>> but no completely 3rd party stuff.
>>
>> I also didn't need to create an account for authentication. The webex
>> join
>> meeting UI sucks pretty badly.
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>> der.hans
>>
>> nearly every day for work. It is true that there's no native client,
>> though, but the workaround is to use Chrome or a Chrome-based browser (in
>> my case, Chromium), and Webex is able to use the built-in screen sharing
>> functionality of Chrome to share your screen. The only caveat I've found is
>> that you must use Xorg, not Wayland, as Chromium doesn't appear to support
>> screen capture on Wayland.
>>
>>
>> On 2020-04-28 15:20, Phil Waclawski via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>
>> Webex still does not have a Linux client (not even via web), so it is
>> a no go for me except on my phone, and I can't teach class with a
>> phone.  So still using Zoom.
>> Phil W
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 11:32 AM der.hans via PLUG-discuss
>> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org> <plug-discuss at lists.phxlinux.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> moin moin,
>>
>> I'll be posting something longer and positive about Big Blue Button
>> (
>> hopefully today ), but at this point we're probably all stuck using
>> a
>> variety of tools that others get to choose for us.
>>
>> Zoom fixed their waiting room security hole and Microsoft is still
>> learning how to safely display images.
>>
>> Both were fixed server side, so the holes should be gone.
>>
>> https://citizenlab.ca/2020/04/zooms-waiting-room-vulnerability/
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.cyberark.com/threat-research-blog/beware-of-the-gif-account-takeover-vulnerability-in-microsoft-teams/
>>
>>
>> Anyone know the state of webex? That's popped up for me due to the
>> recurring zoom issues.
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>> der.hans
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