Debian 9 vs Ubuntu 18

[Bob Elzer]

Excellent Steve,
Jim needs to make a list of what he does and uses on his Linux box. I used
to upgrade on every release of Red hat by doing a fresh install, but every
six months was a lot of work. Now I use Centos because of long term support
and the fact it has so many things I can do with it.



On Tue, Sep 4, 2018, 9:53 AM Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 22:50:41 -0700
> Jim <jim.nantz15 at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > I've been using Kubuntu for 5 years now since I freed my computer
> > from windows and started running linux.  For most of that time I used
> > Kubuntu 14.  I tried 16, but soon gave up on it because there were
> > too many bugs.  In July I put Kubuntu 18 on this machine. There are
> > some annoying bugs with it, but nothing that keeps me from using it.
> >
> > I saw on here recently that someone said they use the stable branch
> > of Debian.  I'm looking for some advice.  Should I stay with Kubuntu
> > or switch to Debian 9 stable?  If you have an opinion, please tell
> > why you favor one over the other.
>
> I think your near-future decisions are much more wide ranging than
> Kubuntu vs Debian Stable:
>
> * Do you want to keep using KDE?
>
> * Where on the "User Friendly" vs DIY spectrum do you want to reside?
>
> * Do you have issues with using systemd?
>
> * Are there distros you like or dislike because of the way they do
>   business?
>
> * Major versions, or rolling release?
>
> * Binary install, or compiled install?
>
> You probably have no opinion on many of these things, but at least ask
> the question. Then, look at Distrowatch and ask LOTS of people what
> they use. For instance, I use Void Linux, which, although not appearing
> in the Distrowatch top 100, is the most stable and DIY distro I've ever
> used. Lately, I've heard many things about #20, PCLinuxOS. #1 Manjaro
> is pretty good if you don't mind systemd and the fact that it's rolling
> release.
>
> You expressed dissatisfaction with Kubuntu's bugs. Big, bloaty wm/de's
> (Window Manager/Desktop Environment) are necessarily buggy: Too much
> complication to build quality in from the start, so they play
> whack-a-mole with bugs, and actually have other problems. Try Lubuntu,
> which is Ubuntu with the very lightweight and rock-stable LXDE wm/de.
> If you're a touch-typist, install dmenu to enable lightning fast
> command-running: Much faster than any hierarchical menu can give you.
>
> You probably have many options I haven't discussed. The main thing is
> this: At this point, limiting yourself to Ubuntu or Debian would be
> premature.
>
> SteveT
>
> Steve Litt
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On Sep 4, 2018 9:53 AM, "Steve Litt" <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 22:50:41 -0700
Jim <jim.nantz15 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I've been using Kubuntu for 5 years now since I freed my computer
> from windows and started running linux.  For most of that time I used
> Kubuntu 14.  I tried 16, but soon gave up on it because there were
> too many bugs.  In July I put Kubuntu 18 on this machine. There are
> some annoying bugs with it, but nothing that keeps me from using it.
>
> I saw on here recently that someone said they use the stable branch
> of Debian.  I'm looking for some advice.  Should I stay with Kubuntu
> or switch to Debian 9 stable?  If you have an opinion, please tell
> why you favor one over the other.

I think your near-future decisions are much more wide ranging than
Kubuntu vs Debian Stable:

* Do you want to keep using KDE?

* Where on the "User Friendly" vs DIY spectrum do you want to reside?

* Do you have issues with using systemd?

* Are there distros you like or dislike because of the way they do
  business?

* Major versions, or rolling release?

* Binary install, or compiled install?

You probably have no opinion on many of these things, but at least ask
the question. Then, look at Distrowatch and ask LOTS of people what
they use. For instance, I use Void Linux, which, although not appearing
in the Distrowatch top 100, is the most stable and DIY distro I've ever
used. Lately, I've heard many things about #20, PCLinuxOS. #1 Manjaro
is pretty good if you don't mind systemd and the fact that it's rolling
release.

You expressed dissatisfaction with Kubuntu's bugs. Big, bloaty wm/de's
(Window Manager/Desktop Environment) are necessarily buggy: Too much
complication to build quality in from the start, so they play
whack-a-mole with bugs, and actually have other problems. Try Lubuntu,
which is Ubuntu with the very lightweight and rock-stable LXDE wm/de.
If you're a touch-typist, install dmenu to enable lightning fast
command-running: Much faster than any hierarchical menu can give you.

You probably have many options I haven't discussed. The main thing is
this: At this point, limiting yourself to Ubuntu or Debian would be
premature.

SteveT


Steve Litt
September 2018 featured book: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business
http://www.troubleshooters.com/startbiz
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