Microsoft infects defectors

[Michael Butash]

If I open Chrome, and search "download microsoft edge" or "download
firefox", I don't get malware links back from google at least.  That is my
point.

Despite the fact I think microsoft is a dirtbag from their other prior art
over the past 30 years, it's simply unprofessional and unscrupulous as I've
seen lately of them.  I can picture Steve Ballmer monkey dancing and
throwing chairs in glee to infecting any competition or attempt at
defection.  That they almost beg and plead you not to leave was at least
amusing if not pitiful, but the fact they now link you, be it errantly,
maliciously, or through feigned ignorance to malware is just disgusting,
and one more reason for me to despise their entire ecosystem.

Good thing people are nice enough to create tools like Ninite to avoid
microsoft infecting you out of the box, but most consumers, including those
like all of our more simple family members, will be infected directly
because of microsoft.  Remember that next time they call you for tech
support within the first hour of them turning on a new pc.

-mb

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:53 PM Matthew Gibson <
guanjun.de.geliqian at gmail.com> wrote:

> Stephen shared a fantastic Windows installation tool. Ninite.
>
> As for willy-nilly searching ambiguously for "google chrome" I think you
> deserve to have those results served to you. Since that lazy mentality is
> the exact target of that attack vector. It is not that difficult to go to
> the authorized webpage for the content you are seeking.
>
> As users we should not fully trust the tools we use. It is nice to have
> higher quality tools. But those higher quality tools can still be spoofed
> to serve us malware. Bashing on Microsoft is not an appropriate use of
> energy, electrons, or effort. Go do something more useful than ranting your
> dislike, disdain, etc. of a company that does not meet your unrealistic
> expectations.
>
> -Matt
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018, 11:12 AM Mark Phillips <mark at phillipsmarketing.biz>
> wrote:
>
>> I installed Ubuntu 18.04 on a Surface Pro 4 using this custom kernel
>>
>> https://github.com/jakeday/linux-surface/
>>
>> and it works really well.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018, 10:49 AM Stephen Partington <cryptworks at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ninite installer (ninite.com) stashed on your installation media can
>>> allow you to sidestep ever launching edge :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 12:51 AM Eric Oyen <eric.oyen at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow.
>>>> Guess that means they want you on their *ahem* browser and won’t take
>>>> downloading another for an answer.
>>>>
>>>> I tried out edge on win10 with jaws. Forget it! Not very accessible and
>>>> even win10 narrator wouldn’t do everything in there either. I haven’t tried
>>>> out NVDA on that as yet (been doing a little troubleshooting of my mates
>>>> machine here and the win10 desktop is a kludge of hit and miss
>>>> accessibility using either narrator or jaws. SMH
>>>>
>>>> -Eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 27, 2018, at 10:54 PM, Michael Butash <michael at butash.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Saw this tonight, not so unbelievable, and yet such a dirtbag thing to
>>>> see.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/10/27/stop-using-microsoft-edge-to-download-chrome-unless-you-want-malware/
>>>>
>>>> Exactly why I defected to linux.  I note when I install a windoze os
>>>> still, launching edge to search "google chrome" results it in it begging
>>>> you not to leave.  It's funny to me.
>>>>
>>>> I keep a dated old chrome and firefox around on a share to bootstrap
>>>> off of so as not to even launch edge for a while now, at least at home.
>>>>
>>>> Now they just link you to malware.  Caveat emtor indeed.
>>>>
>>>> -mb
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>>> --
>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from
>>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
>>>
>>> Stephen
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