what sort of use cases/memory_needs/etc (was RE: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!)

[Steve Litt]

Or Funtoo, or Devuan, or Void Linux.

On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 17:18:56 -0700
"Herminio Hernandez, Jr." <herminio.hernandezjr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Aaron,
> 
> You can always run Gentoo...systemd free ;)
> 
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Aaron Jones <retro64xyz at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Minimum 32gb ddr4 checking in. I remember when I used to put Linux
> > on low spec machines...
> >
> > You know, the guy at the computer store told me I would never fill
> > my 10gb hard drive. But thanks to bloat and Lennart Poettering, I
> > now need 32gb of ram, 8 cores, and a multi terrabyte ssd just to be
> > effective. The future is here ladies and gents... and it is
> > gloriously unoptimized.
> >
> > On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Stephen Partington
> > <cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am currently running 24gb ram and would use more. But I have a
> > combination of VM use, photography (ram goes fast when you have
> > 24mp raw) gaming and other strange tasks going.
> >
> > On Sep 6, 2017 1:48 PM, "Carruth, Rusty" <Rusty.Carruth at smartm.com>
> > wrote: 
> >> Well, we've kind of strayed from the original topic, so I'll do a
> >> pre-emptive strike and change the subject.  Hopefully nobody gets
> >> mad...
> >>
> >> So, I'm impressed by the memory/cpu load that Mr Graham has on his
> >> computer.  And I thought I was a hog... er, I mean heavy resource
> >> user!  (I once was moved to my own personal Sun Sparc computer
> >> because I kept beating up the shared one getting work done...)
> >>
> >> But I agree with him that 16G is getting close to the minimum
> >> required amount if you do much web browsing with lots of tabs (Ok,
> >> he didn't exactly say that, but it was implied).  (Moment of
> >> openness - I once had 50 tabs in a single Firefox window, and
> >> there were at least 4 other Firefox windows running.  At this
> >> point in time, I have 17 firefox windows running, with a total of
> >> 32+5+14+17+10+17+32+30+14+98+12+60+16+1+12+3+18+40.  Whoa, that
> >> even surprised me.  Anyway, 'only' 5G of ram in use on this 16G
> >> windows machine...)
> >>
> >> Also, I don't consider a thin client to be useful for anything but
> >> a work machine which is unable to leave the office.  Too many ways
> >> to have things not work (or be hacked/etc)..  IMHO, of course :-)
> >>
> >> Rusty
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: PLUG-discuss
> >> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Matt
> >> Graham Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 1:38 PM
> >> To: Main PLUG discussion list
> >> Subject: Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!
> >>
> >> On 2017-09-06 12:26, techlists at phpcoderusa.com wrote:  
> >> > What are you doing that requires a top of the line CPU, 32G RAM,
> >> > and a 1T SSD?  
> >>
> >> Android development?  :-)  An Android project someone else put
> >> together here uses some sort of library or syntactic sugar
> >> combination that makes compiles peg the CPU for several minutes
> >> when one line of one file's changed.  (Java's always been a
> >> bloated sack, but this is kind of unusual.)
> >>  
> >> > Given that [using someone else's computer as a vital part of
> >> > whatever you're doing], a baseline laptop with decent graphics,
> >> > 8G RAM, and a 128G SSD should be enough.  
> >>
> >> Maybe for some really lightweight use cases.  git assumes you have
> >> infinite storage space.  Any nontrivial node.js project will eat
> >> 512M in node_modules dependencies.  The Android Studio support
> >> directory here is 42G.  The graphic design people here said that
> >> there was no way they could get by with machines that had only
> >> 256G SSDs, because .psd files are huge. And these are work
> >> machines.  You'd have to add the space music and media collections
> >> take up to personal machines. 
> >> > Unless one is running many local virtual machines, doing some
> >> > serious video or image work, or doing lots of compiling... I am
> >> > think the cloud and thin client hardware is the way to go.  
> >>
> >> If you have a 100% reliable and fast network, and your disk space
> >> needs are tiny, and your external service provider won't die, this
> >> *might* work. Being able to work (and play) on a personal machine
> >> without external dependencies is useful in enough circumstances
> >> that I wouldn't consider buying a thin client as anything other
> >> than a toy.
> >>
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