what sort of use cases/memory_needs/etc (was RE: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!)

[Carruth, Rusty]

Well, we've kind of strayed from the original topic, so I'll do a pre-emptive strike and change the subject.  Hopefully nobody gets mad...

So, I'm impressed by the memory/cpu load that Mr Graham has on his computer.  And I thought I was a hog... er, I mean heavy resource user!  (I once was moved to my own personal Sun Sparc computer because I kept beating up the shared one getting work done...)

But I agree with him that 16G is getting close to the minimum required amount if you do much web browsing with lots of tabs (Ok, he didn't exactly say that, but it was implied).  (Moment of openness - I once had 50 tabs in a single Firefox window, and there were at least 4 other Firefox windows running.  At this point in time, I have 17 firefox windows running, with a total of 32+5+14+17+10+17+32+30+14+98+12+60+16+1+12+3+18+40.  Whoa, that even surprised me.  Anyway, 'only' 5G of ram in use on this 16G windows machine...)

Also, I don't consider a thin client to be useful for anything but a work machine which is unable to leave the office.  Too many ways to have things not work (or be hacked/etc)..  IMHO, of course :-)

Rusty

-----Original Message-----
From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Matt Graham
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 1:38 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!

On 2017-09-06 12:26, techlists at phpcoderusa.com wrote:
> What are you doing that requires a top of the line CPU, 32G RAM, and a 
> 1T SSD?

Android development?  :-)  An Android project someone else put together here uses some sort of library or syntactic sugar combination that makes compiles peg the CPU for several minutes when one line of one file's changed.  (Java's always been a bloated sack, but this is kind of
unusual.)

> Given that [using someone else's computer as a vital part of whatever 
> you're doing], a baseline laptop with decent graphics, 8G RAM, and a 
> 128G SSD should be enough.

Maybe for some really lightweight use cases.  git assumes you have infinite storage space.  Any nontrivial node.js project will eat 512M in node_modules dependencies.  The Android Studio support directory here is 42G.  The graphic design people here said that there was no way they could get by with machines that had only 256G SSDs, because .psd files are huge.  And these are work machines.  You'd have to add the space music and media collections take up to personal machines.

> Unless one is running many local virtual machines, doing some serious 
> video or image work, or doing lots of compiling... I am think the 
> cloud and thin client hardware is the way to go.

If you have a 100% reliable and fast network, and your disk space needs are tiny, and your external service provider won't die, this *might* work.  Being able to work (and play) on a personal machine without external dependencies is useful in enough circumstances that I wouldn't consider buying a thin client as anything other than a toy.

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