Warranty!!?!?!?!?!

[Michael Butash]

Yup, the precision 3000/5000 is almost a direct clone of the xps13/15, just
with different graphics (geforce vs. quadro), wifi (atheros vs. intel), and
proc (xeon options).  Nothing else really different I could tell other than
price.  I went with the xps as consumer coupons go higher than precision
discounts.

I usually just shop bensbargains.com or dealnews, wait for a dell outlet
refurb coupon to go 35-40% around a holiday, and score a laptop then for
some steep savings.  I got this xps15 loaded with the 4k display, nvidia
gpu, 32gb ram, 1tb ssd for $1950 out the door.  Worst part of buying from
dell is sales tax.  :(

-mb

On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Stephen Partington <cryptworks at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I have been seeing Ubuntu offered on their precision mobile workstations...
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Carruth, Rusty <Rusty.Carruth at smartm.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Actually, comparing the Alienware that I bought vs a very similar one at
>> System 76:
>>
>>
>>
>> Alienware: 16G RAM, 4K display, 1T rotating drive, 128G SSD, I7-7700:
>> List $2066, paid $1536
>>
>> System76:  16G RAM, 1080P,         2T rotating drive, 512G SSD, I7-7700:
>> list under $1500.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, double the rotator size, 4x the SSD size, and remove the 4K display –
>> and save around $500.  I’d say 76 isn’t bad, price-wise.  The primary
>> reason I got the alien was because of the 4K and similar price (I did a
>> side-by-side comparison at the store. 4K really is better, and when I got
>> home and booted Linux on it – whoa!).  (Don’t know which video card they
>> each had – I’m not going to be doing gaming (much?) so don’t care that
>> much… I think)
>>
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, live booting the Mint 17.3 DVD resulted in no Ethernet or
>> WiFi.  I’m downloading 18.2 now to see if that’s better, as a google search
>> seems to imply it is.  But the display!  Oh, my goodness!
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh, by the way – the alienware has only ONE ‘standard’ disk slot, but 3,
>> yes THREE M.2 slots – one very short, the other 2 full-length.  And only 2
>> RAM slots.  Which is too bad – my Lenovo for work (17” also) has 2 standard
>> slots and 2 M.2 slots (and 4 RAM slots) – I mean, its not like they don’t
>> have ROOM, for goodness sake!  But then, the Lenovo was almost $3000.  Of
>> course, it had a 1TB SSD as well as 16G of ram and the TOP video card…
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.phxlinux.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Michael
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 05, 2017 7:15 PM
>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>> *Subject:* Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?!
>>
>>
>>
>> system76 is expensive too
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Phil Waclawski <phil.waclawski at mesacc.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I have a laptop from zareason that I've used for several years. It was a
>> touch pricey, but still powerful enough to do a lot. They also will install
>> different flavors of linux for you.
>>
>> Phil Waclawski
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Mark Phillips <mark at phillipsmarketing.biz>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Rusty,
>>
>>
>>
>> Did you check out System 76 laptops? They come with Ubuntu installed, but
>> I think you can ask for any distro. I have been using their hardware for a
>> couple of years, and it is flawless.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Michael Butash <michael at butash.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just went through this with a new dell, where I used the local windoze
>> tools to make a usb backup imagine with their software to a 16gb drive, and
>> just tossed it in a drawer if I ever need to restore things.  That
>> supposedly restores their recovery partitions and windoze itself, which
>> should be everything...
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd not put faith in some tier 1 rep telling you linux voids the
>> warranty.  It was probably one of those "What is linux?  Yeah, don't do
>> that." sort of comments ignorant agents might spew, but otherwise shouldn't
>> matter.  If you restore the disk and bios to prior function, they should be
>> none the wiser anyways.
>>
>>
>>
>> -mb
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:37 AM, irb <irb_plug-d at maleficarum.org> wrote:
>>
>> * Carruth, Rusty (aka Rusty.Carruth at smartm.com) used 15K on Tue, 05 Sep
>> 2017 at 17:21 +0000 to say:
>> >
>> > (By the way – does anyone remember the ‘windows refund day’ many years
>> back?
>> > System vendors refused to honor the refund clause stated in the EULA (or
>> > whatever it was), claiming that Microsoft had to honor it, and Micro$oft
>> > claimed that it was the responsibility of the system vendors (which,
>> indeed,
>> > it was).  But as far as I know, NOBODY got their refund….  Again,
>> where’s
>> > the lawyers????)
>>
>> I remember that, as part of BALUG many years ago. I never got a refund and
>> Microsoft tried to turn it to their advantage by setting up a booth. I
>> think
>> there's a documentary out there somewhere.
>>
>> When dealing with warranty crap from laptop vendors I just take an image
>> of
>> the drive. If I have to send it in I don't include the drive anyway, and
>> I've
>> never been given grief over it. Still, having an original hardware backup
>> like that is kinda cool.
>>
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