computer slow
Michael
bmike1 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 30 17:21:16 MST 2017
Here is around 180 seconds of readings at around 10 second intervals (if it
helps):
$ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +74.5°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.5°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +75.5°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +75.5°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +75.5°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.4°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +75.0°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.2°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +75.5°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +75.5°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.5°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +75.0°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +50.9°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +75.5°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +53.6°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +75.0°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +52.4°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +75.0°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.8°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +74.5°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.1°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +74.5°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +74.5°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +52.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +74.0°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +50.6°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +74.5°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.4°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +75.0°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.8°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
bmike1 at MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
radeon-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +75.0°C
k10temp-pci-00c3
Adapter: PCI adapter
temp1: +51.9°C (high = +70.0°C)
(crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend at gmail.com> wrote:
> 30 mins is plenty for a test. Try to get sensors output just before a
> crash
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> how long do you want me to run glmark2 for? Forever is not feasible!
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> as for the shutoff point everything that had anything to do with cutting
>>> power was already diabled
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> $ sensors
>>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>>> temp1: +68.0°C
>>>>
>>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>>> temp1: +45.1°C (high = +70.0°C)
>>>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well, it might be protecting your computer but if it is too low it
>>>>> will just be annoying.
>>>>> You still need to run sensors and get those numbers if you haven't yet:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-temperature
>>>>>
>>>>> If your machine is legitimately overheating you need to address that
>>>>> with fans and ventilation, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> if there is a shutoff point you did say disable it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, you're on the right track. Try to isolate whether glmark
>>>>>>> alone can crash it, or if you need stress as well. Then try opening up
>>>>>>> your case and point a fan in there.
>>>>>>> Also don't forget to check the BIOS for thermal management events
>>>>>>> that might be causing the shutdown/reboot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> never mind..... I ran glmark around 5 minutes and then stress. that
>>>>>>>> crashed the machine! Not a nice reboot (like what it does with dt) but a
>>>>>>>> power failure outage,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and if glmark2 doesn't crash it run stress the same amount of time?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> how long do I let glmark2's pretty horse rotate?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>>>>>> `
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>> briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd wait. If stress alone doesn't crash, run glmark2 by
>>>>>>>>>>>> itself. If glmark2 doesn't crash, run them both at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> run this now or after stress completes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not yet ;-). If it doesn't crash, you might need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress the graphics card as well with one of these tools:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu-benchmarking-and-stress-testin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g-in-linux/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So maybe kick off both stress and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> glmark2 --run-forever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it doesn't crash I'll start hounding the darktable forums.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just started..... lets see what happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forget darktable for now. Did you run stress test for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 10 seconds?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This will run a stress test for 30 minutes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 2 --timeout 1800s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can get it to crash with just this stress program,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then it has nothing to do with darktable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no sensors running and as for it panicing when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warm sometimes it panics after I run dt 2 minutes after it had been shut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down an hour and doesn't panic even though dt had run10 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check your bios settings for hardware monitoring and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature limits. You may have it set with a maximum temperature so the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine panics when it's just warm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try raising this number or disabling the feature entirely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But first check your sensors by installing a temperature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitoring program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017 1:04 PM, "Michael" <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is sooo ify! I just ran it for like 10 minutes with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no crashes whereas before I had just started the computer and ran dt for 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes and it crashed. Then I restarted and I had a repeat performance of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2 minute thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --timeout 10s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] dispatching hogs: 8 cpu, 4 io, 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vm, 0 hdd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] successful run completed in 10s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that was suppossed to tell me but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am experiencing no slowness. It is like the days
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you had a power switch on the back of your computer... or it is like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a hard reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Stephen Partington <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCL in darktable mainly impacts rendering. it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have no effect on on system or ram consumption unless you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiencing slowness during render cycles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know.... I'm having trouble running darktable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems that after I start it it runs a few minutes and then reboots the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. Probably because I do not have a GPU (I don't think). Then I saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this thread and thought that I'd give that a try. So it seems I can not run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chrome and darktable at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'lspci' shows that my graphics card is :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 'lspci|grep gpu' returned an empty set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if I did that correctly)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I suppose the cheapest way to fix this is to get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a gpu.... correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Carruth, Rusty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rusty.Carruth at smartm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my experience, it’s almost always Firefox
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking all of memory. (Or Chrome, or whatever web browser you’re using).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Mr B, run top or htop and see what’s,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well, on top ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rusty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug-discuss-bounces at lists.phxlinux.org] *On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Michael Butash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:05 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: computer slow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I ever have that, it's usually because of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something with a memory leak, or desktop graphic compositing is degrading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you reboot, see if you can ssh into it from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another computer and check htop (or just top all you have), see if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is consuming all your memory or cpu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop compositors are all shite from what I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tell (including windoze), they're all just a varying degree of broken when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you push them, or just have a slow (or buggy) video card. Depending on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your desktop environment of choice, try turning down graphics options, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabling the compositor all together to see if it helps stability.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -mb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm almost certain that in my bag of tricks I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions on 'resetting' my computer when it started acting weird but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't find them. Riddle me this: I try to leave the computer on 24/7 (maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I shouldn't do that) and twice so far I come up to it and it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-responsive or really slow to respond. Anyone know how to fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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