OT: Need a Campaign to Secure WIFI Sites

[Vara La Fey]

Oh HELL no!! What kind of hall-monitor nanny mentality do you want 
people to adopt??

I accept "bogus" certificates all the time because the whole idea of 
certificates is crap in the first place - they are NOT maintained - and 
years ago I got tired of that procedure warning me about "invalid" 
certificates for sites that were perfectly valid.

I've never had a problem. Of course I'm also careful where I go, 
certificate or not.

- Vara


On 3/20/2017 2:12 PM, Brien Dieterle wrote:
> Maybe every commercial router should do SSL interception by default.  
> If a user accepts a bogus certificate they are taken to a page that 
> thoroughly scolds them and informs them about the huge mistake they 
> made, forces them to read a few slides and take a quiz on network 
> safety before allowing them on the Internet.  Maybe do the same for 
> non-ssl HTTP traffic, etc.. .
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Matt Graham <mhgraham at crow202.org 
> <mailto:mhgraham at crow202.org>> wrote:
>
>         On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Victor Odhner
>         <vodhner at cox.net <mailto:vodhner at cox.net>> wrote:
>
>             I’m really annoyed that so many companies offer open WIFI
>             when it would be
>             so easy to secure those hot spots.  Restaurants, hotels,
>             and the waiting
>             rooms of auto dealerships are almost 100% open.
>
>     [snip]
>     On 2017-03-20 13:20, Stephen Partington wrote:
>
>         This is usually done as a means to be easy for their customers.
>
>
>     Pretty much this.  Convenience is more valuable than security in
>     most people's minds.
>
>             they’d be happy to do the right thing if we could explain
>             it to the right people.
>
>
>     I'm not sure this would happen.  Setting up passwords and then
>     distributing those passwords has a non-zero cost and offers zero
>     visible benefits for most of the people who are using the wireless
>     networks.[0]  And as another poster said, what about
>     football/baseball stadiums?  Distributing passwords to tens of
>     thousands of people is sort of difficult.  "Just watching the
>     game" is not an option; people want to FaceTweet pictures of
>     themselves at the game.
>
>     OTOH, the last time I looked at the access points visible from my
>     living room, almost all of them had some sort of access control
>     enabled. Maybe there's a social convention forming that "my access
>     point" ~= "my back yard" and "open access point" ~= "a public park"?
>
>     [0] Having a more educated user population would make the benefits
>     more visible, but it's very difficult to make people care about
>     these things.
>
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