Stallman was Right

[Bob Elzer]

They were probably just seeing into the future. Lol

On Mar 8, 2017 12:39 PM, "Anon Anon" <lokotejones at gmail.com> wrote:

> Remember the good old days when people who believed their tv was watching
> them were crazy?
>
> On Mar 8, 2017 12:23 PM, "Matthew Crews" <mattcrews at mattcrews.com> wrote:
>
>> Many smart TVs these days have built in cameras and microphones...
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 8, 2017, 12:21 Bob Elzer <bob.elzer at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well they are welcome to listen in on me. But I don't have a listening
>>> device, they are welcome to send me on of those 65" Samsung devices, I'll
>>> make room for it.
>>>
>>> Are you reading this guy's ?
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2017 5:52 PM, "Eric Oyen" <eric.oyen at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> yeah, you are right there. However, they will have to eventually justify
>>> those expenses, so the more expensive we make it for them, the more likely
>>> it is that they may be forced to give up and let us have more secure
>>> products.
>>>
>>> one other point to offer, we might end up having to file an FOIA request
>>> to get the source code for all of these malware tools. then we could take
>>> them apart, figure out how to disarm them and create more secure linux
>>> devices. Then again, one can dream. :)
>>>
>>> -eric
>>> From the central office of the Technomage Guild
>>> special office: cyber security
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2017, at 5:27 PM, Anon Anon wrote:
>>>
>>> We could start a movement or group but they spend a lot of money
>>> infiltrating those groups. There isnt a lot of ways to reliably compete
>>> against their tactics....
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2017 17:07, "Eric Oyen" <eric.oyen at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> OMFG!
>>> *sigh* leave it to bureaucrats to completely foul things up as usual.
>>> Now, had this come out some 20 years ago, people would have thought it to
>>> be in the realm of science fiction. oh wait, there was one such film:
>>> swordfish!
>>>
>>> perhaps its time we all started a consortium to combat this? I would
>>> rather see a secure system that requires multiple levels of security than
>>> this.
>>>
>>> -eric
>>> from the central office of the Technomage Guild.
>>> Special office: cyber security.
>>>
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