sporadic connectivity

Mon Aug 14 11:05:26 MST 2017

You need to have a pci-e slot, they are not compatible with legacy pci.
The wiki for the pci express spec should tell you all.

-mb

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend at gmail.com> wrote:

> No it won't matter for you, just get whatever fits the slot you have
>
> On Aug 12, 2017 5:33 AM, "Michael" <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> maybe I'm confused.... is the pci-e standard new. From the photographs of
>> it it looks to short to fit in the slots that are like that (the extension
>> with two tabs that drop down). Like this:
>> ______________________
>> |                                          |
>> |                                          |
>> |______________   _         |
>> |                           |_|   |___ |
>>
>>  more to the point how many different pci cards are there? the one
>> computer has NO room for more cards and I will need to remove a pci card
>> but the main computer has a few free slots. one pci and a few of the other;
>> are those pci-e?
>>
>> Well.... I just googled it  and it appears those are pci-e slots.Is it
>> really that critical I have pci-e? I mean should I cancel my order and
>> change it?
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 7:05 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I need two because I have two computers..... the tv server and my work
>>> horse.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:58 PM, Michael Butash <michael at butash.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Using 2 usb nics will not help here, in fact, it's just going to
>>>> probably freak out your system.  Just don't do that as a friendly
>>>> recommendation.
>>>>
>>>> Atheros and Realtek tend to have good linux support these days, I can't
>>>> remember the last time I picked up a random usb stick and did NOT have it
>>>> work.  Definitely better than 5-10 years ago with hacks and manual patching
>>>> kernels.  If nothing else, figure out the vendor wifi chip the units have
>>>> (the googles tend to find this with some persistence in searching), and
>>>> then search that plus linux.
>>>>
>>>> Someone prior mentioned getting a usb nic with external antennas, I
>>>> second that.  I have an atheros-based chip with dual antennas I got years
>>>> ago I use for wireless surveys, you can unscrew those and put up a bigger
>>>> gain antenna if needed, or an extension cable with a free-standing antenna
>>>> if you want to get fancy.
>>>>
>>>> -mb
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> well.... I decided on:
>>>>> 2 of Netis WF2118 Wireless N 300Mbps PCI Adapter with Two 5dBi
>>>>> Antennas and Low-profile Bracket
>>>>> the price was right and they seem to work on Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What about
>>>>>> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-us
>>>>>> b-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb ?
>>>>>> Will I likely have the same issue?
>>>>>> I don't really want to spend $76 on two
>>>>>> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-pc
>>>>>> i-card-v5-w-full-low-profile-brackets .
>>>>>> And what is the difference between the previously mentioned donge and
>>>>>> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-g-usb-adapter
>>>>>> ? I see one uses N and one uses G but what does that mean? google seems to
>>>>>> imply n is better. So do you think two of the N dongles will fix the
>>>>>> problem?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't buy anything unless you can confirm it has 100% linux
>>>>>>> support.  The PCI version of that card says it has linux support, but PCIe
>>>>>>> version looks suspicious.  I don't think PCIe cards will work in a PCI slot.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just get a card from here:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.thinkpenguin.com/catalog/wireless-networking-gnulinux
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 1:03 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I can't get a manufacturer from this on but it says it is a pci-e
>>>>>>>> card.
>>>>>>>> What do you think.... should I get it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:36 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hate it..... I need to reconnect often!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This one will work. What do you think?
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Netis-Wireless-Advanced-Antennas-Low-
>>>>>>>>>> profile/dp/B0051PZSX8/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1502406163&sr=
>>>>>>>>>> 8-14&keywords=low+profile+wireless+pci+card
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Brian Cluff <brian at snaptek.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More than likely you just need a pcie card.  They have antennas
>>>>>>>>>>> on them that are much more powerful than the tiny little antennas that are
>>>>>>>>>>> built into the USB dongles.  I've got a dongle that won't pick on the
>>>>>>>>>>> access point at the other end of my house even though my laptop and a
>>>>>>>>>>> computer with a PCIe card pick them up fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Brian Cluff
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/10/2017 04:17 PM, Michael wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I was speaking with my father about this and he said that I
>>>>>>>>>>> probably need to update my drivers. Being on Linux means my drivers are
>>>>>>>>>>> updated everytimeI update the computer I think. He then said that sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>> they work and sometimes they don't and the same thing goes for the cards.
>>>>>>>>>>> So I need to ask what cards have people had success with?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:32 AM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I changed on goals and they think it's appears to have made it
>>>>>>>>>>>> better. What do you mean by put to sleep
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 8, 2017 11:19 AM, "Stephen Partington" <
>>>>>>>>>>>> cryptworks at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there is an issue with the dongle or your system trying to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> put the USB chain to sleep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think the problem could be the dongle? Would getting a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wireless card resolve the problem?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I went to cnn.com with no problems to repoport
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no I didn't have to do that. this is a private residence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a non business network
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 6, 2017 at 8:43 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have to click agree on a sign in page when using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guest?  Try going to a url like CNN.com and see if that brings up the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> captive portal sign on page.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 2017 5:30 PM, "Michael" <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I moved into a new place which offers free wifi (I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> renting a room). I have my wifi dongle plugged in and sometimes wifi works
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and sometimes it doesn't. Could it be something with Linux because the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> woman who owns the house says wifi works fine for her.  I am on a guest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> you from rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze
>>>>>>>>>>>>> button.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stephen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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