Wow... Unity, Mir, Ubuntu phone/tablet all going bye bye

[Matthew Crews]

>Convergence so far has never been approached well. the closest I saw was
The Ubuntu Mobile experience, but It relied on
>USB video and experience too much to ever become what it could have been.
I think just creating a secure data exchange
>between desktop and laptop so that your mobile devices becomes a
"Userspace" mirror would be far more valuable. then
>build applications that are specific to each physical platform that can
then interact with that communal data would be a
>success. so far nobody has really embraced that.

Honestly what I want to see is a universal dock for my phone or tablet that
I can use regardless of device. Plug my device in via the USB input, and
the dock acts as both a video output and a USB/Bluetooth hub for keyboard
and mouse input.

Thats essentially what the DeX Station, the upcoming dock for the Galaxy
S8, will do. I want that, without having to buy a new phone.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/phones/dex-station---black-ee-mg950tbegus/

> ​Microsoft is actually building their Os and applications stack in such a
way that Application developers no long
>have to develop for the hardware platform, simply to .NET core. that will
then do all the work to move the
>application between x86 or ARM. they have quite a few ARM devices.

They have been trying to do this for years since the Windows 8 days (or
earlier). Hopefully it works this time. Too bad its not a feasible approach
for Linux and Android though.

On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 2:05 PM Stephen Partington <cryptworks at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The Ubuntu mobile UI was a nice platform to work with in a tablet or phone
> interface, but the application ecosystem was horrifying to deal with. I am
> sorry a slapped together wrapper for someone's website is not an app. It is
> a bastardized browser experience that is worse than just using a browser.
> And combine that with no core applications aside from the ones developed by
> the OS team. Its death is not surprising, but it did make me sad.
>
> Convergence so far has never been approached well. the closest I saw was
> The Ubuntu Mobile experience, but It relied on USB video and experience too
> much to ever become what it could have been. I think just creating a secure
> data exchange between desktop and laptop so that your mobile devices
> becomes a "Userspace" mirror would be far more valuable. then build
> applications that are specific to each physical platform that can then
> interact with that communal data would be a success. so far nobody has
> really embraced that.
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 1:40 PM, Matthew Crews <mattcrews at mattcrews.com>
> wrote:
>
> Good riddance to Unity. That was essentially an unnecessary fork of Gnome
> with polarizing opinions (on top of the polarizing opinions of Gnome). I
> think shifting back to Gnome 3 is the right decision in the long run
> (especially since Debian uses Gnome 3). That said there are features of
> Unity I like, but not many.
>
> Where do you see that Mir is going away? Not seeing it in the article.
> That said, I again agree that Mir is unnecessary when we have Wayland.
>
> Ubuntu phone was, in my opinion, as DOA as Firefox OS and Tizen, and
> Windows Phone.
>
> Tablets...i have very strong opinions about tablets that you can poke me
> about later.
>
> Microsoft can't even get convergence right with Windows 10, and they have
> the money to do it, but then again this is Microsoft we are talking about.
> Android/Chrome OS are going to be closest we get (and it appears to largely
> be successful in Samsung's Galaxy S8, app support notwithstanding).
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 1:28 PM Brian Cluff <brian at snaptek.com> wrote:
>
>
> https://insights.ubuntu.com/2017/04/05/growing-ubuntu-for-cloud-and-iot-rather-than-phone-and-convergence/
>
> It's sad to see so much development get scrapped and I really wanted to
> see a sucsessful ubuntu phone, but I can't help but to think that this
> will ultimately be a good thing.
>
> Brian Cluff
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