walking pictures

Brian Cluff brian at snaptek.com
Tue Mar 8 15:29:32 MST 2016


When making panoramas inside you MUST use some sort of rig to spin the 
camera perfectly on it's focal point.  That's the only way to make sure 
that you aren't introducing a lot of parallax distortion.  If you are 
outside you can often get away with just taking a bunch of pictures in a 
circle because objects in the picture are far enough away that a few 
inches won't be noticeable, but when you are inside just a couple of 
inches of difference in the pictures causes a tremendous amount of 
distortion that Hugin won't be able to deal with automatically, and even 
if you manually set control points, the control points won't make sense 
to Hugin because the distortion will skew the math.  It is possible to 
manually set control points but you have to only set points on objects 
that are all the same distance from the camera.  If you try to set 
control points that are at different distances, that's where you run 
into trouble.  It's like when you hold you your finger in front of your 
face and alternately close one eye and then the other and your finger 
jumps back and forth... the same things happens inside Hugin and it 
really doesn't like it.

On a related note, just because I have time to type more, you can use 
Hugin to stitch panoramas of distant objects that have smaller objects 
in the foreground, such as a sign at the grand canyon telling you not to 
jump off, that you don't want in the picture, by purposely taking 
pictures that would normally introduce distortion.  All you have to do 
is make sure that you only set control points on the furthest away 
landscape that you really want, and then use Hugin's masking feature to 
mask out the object (sign in this case) that you don't want and when it 
gets done you will have a nice signless pictures of your landscape.

Brian Cluff

On 03/08/2016 02:52 PM, Michael wrote:
> Yeah, I spent a long time putting control points in and it didn't seem
> to like to do the inside spherical panorama.
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Anthony Radzykewycz
> <anthony.radzykewycz at gatewaycc.edu
> <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz at gatewaycc.edu>> wrote:
>
>     Unfortunately, I am not familiar with any other applications to
>     accomplish the goal at hand.
>
>     On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         well..... I guess that doesn't help so much
>
>         On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Michael <bmike1 at gmail.com
>         <mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             I'll tell ya, I don't know why it isn't working but it
>             isn't. So I was just about to ask the group if they know of
>             a tutorial when the thought occurred to me that I should
>             google for it first. That turned up:
>
>             http://arachnoid.com/drones/drone_images.html
>
>             On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Brian Cluff
>             <brian at snaptek.com <mailto:brian at snaptek.com>> wrote:
>
>                 Have you tried clicking "Fit" under the Move and Drag
>                 tab.  There might be more of your panorama that is off
>                 the display and is being cropped.
>
>                 Brian
>
>
>                 On 03/06/2016 10:02 AM, Michael wrote:
>>                 I just did it again and all the pictures showed up
>>                 correctly but it only did halp of the sphere. Does my
>>                 'projection need to be something specific?
>>
>>                 On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Michael
>>                 <bmike1 at gmail.com <mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                     I tried that about an hour ago but it turned six
>>                     of the images 180 degrees for some reason. I
>>                     looked at what it was reading the data from and
>>                     the pictures were fine.
>>
>>                     On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Brian Cluff
>>                     <<mailto:Brian at snaptek.com>Brian at snaptek.com
>>                     <mailto:Brian at snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                         Hugin can make 360 spherical pianos without
>>                         any special effort. Just put all the images
>>                         into Hugin that make up the sphere and it will
>>                         do the test. The tutorial that you linked to
>>                         is how to make an HDR spherical panorama,
>>                         that's a little more effort than I think you
>>                         want to do for real estate photos.
>>
>>                         Brian Cluff
>>
>>                         On March 6, 2016 6:33:03 AM MST, Michael
>>                         <bmike1 at gmail.com <mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>>
>>                         wrote:
>>
>>                             I was sitting here thinking that hugin
>>                             should be able to do this and that someone
>>                             should suggest it to a developer. Then I
>>                             thought someone might have done that
>>                             already. So I did a websearch! Look at
>>                             what I found:
>>
>>                             http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/enfuse-360/en.shtml
>>
>>                             On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 10:13 PM, Brian
>>                             Cluff
>>                             <<mailto:brian at snaptek.com>brian at snaptek.com
>>                             <mailto:brian at snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                                 Try:
>>                                 apt-get install python-opengl
>>
>>                                 Brian Cluff
>>
>>                                 On 03/05/2016 06:30 PM, Michael wrote:
>>
>>                                     I thought about it and think I
>>                                     realized the error of my ways;
>>                                     python.exe
>>                                     is because python is not
>>                                     automatically in Windows like with
>>                                     Linux so I
>>                                     don't need that program.
>>                                     Unfortunately when I tried to run
>>                                     the other
>>                                     program:
>>
>>                                     $ python PhotoSphere.py
>>                                     Traceback (most recent call last):
>>                                        File "PhotoSphere.py", line 21,
>>                                     in <module>
>>                                          from OpenGL.GL import *
>>                                     ImportError: No module named OpenGL.GL
>>
>>                                     so I apt-get install opengl.gl
>>                                     <http://opengl.gl>
>>                                     <http://opengl.gl> . Unfortunately
>>                                     I get
>>                                     the same error after installing
>>                                     opengl.gl <http://opengl.gl>
>>                                     <http://opengl.gl> . Then I
>>                                     tried apt-get install openGL.GL
>>                                     but am informed that the program is
>>                                     already installed.
>>
>>
>>
>>                                     On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 8:39 PM,
>>                                     Michael
>>                                     <<mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>bmike1 at gmail.com
>>                                     <mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>                                     <mailto:<mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>bmike1 at gmail.com
>>                                     <mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>                                         Ifound something that might be
>>                                     sorta wahat I'm looking for.
>>                                     <http://meestuff.blogspot.com/2013/08/google-photo-sphere-viewer-for-desktop.html>http://meestuff.blogspot.com/2013/08/google-photo-sphere-viewer-for-desktop.html
>>                                     .
>>                                         It is suppossed to work with
>>                                     Linux.
>>                                         I download the file and
>>                                     extract it but there are no
>>                                     instructions to
>>                                         install it. I opened the bat
>>                                     file and the contents of it seemed to
>>                                         be instructions for installing
>>                                     but unfortuatly:
>>
>>                                             bmike1 at MikesBeast
>>                                     ~/Documents/Programs/PhotoSphereBundle
>>                                     $
>>                                             ./App/python.exe
>>                                     ./App/PhotoSphere.py
>>
>>                                         bash: ./App/python.exe:
>>                                     Permission denied
>>
>>                                             bmike1 at MikesBeast
>>                                     ~/Documents/Programs/PhotoSphereBundle
>>                                     $
>>                                             .\App\python.exe
>>                                     .\App\PhotoSphere.py
>>
>>                                         .Apppython.exe: command not found
>>                                         Please, how do I install it?
>>
>>                                         On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 4:03
>>                                     PM, Michael
>>                                     <<mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>bmike1 at gmail.com
>>                                     <mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>
>>                                     <mailto:<mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>bmike1 at gmail.com
>>                                     <mailto:bmike1 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>                                             Thank you very much
>>                                     Anthony. This sounds very much
>>                                     like what I
>>                                             would like to use.
>>                                             When I searched for
>>                                     'street google street view'
>>                                     yesterday I
>>                                             could not find it in the
>>                                     playstore. I searched for
>>                                     photospere in
>>                                             google  and that search
>>                                     revealed that  it was put on
>>                                     android 4.2
>>                                             and my phone is only a
>>                                     2.2. Is there a way to download it (or
>>                                             something similar) to my
>>                                     computer?
>>
>>
>>                                             On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at
>>                                     1:58 PM, Anthony Radzykewycz
>>
>>                                     <<mailto:anthony.radzykewycz at gatewaycc.edu>anthony.radzykewycz at gatewaycc.edu
>>                                     <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz at gatewaycc.edu>
>>
>>                                     <mailto:<mailto:anthony.radzykewycz at gatewaycc.edu>anthony.radzykewycz at gatewaycc.edu
>>                                     <mailto:anthony.radzykewycz at gatewaycc.edu>>>
>>                                     wrote:
>>
>>                                                 The app will guide you
>>                                     on how many pictures to take and use
>>                                                 circular guides that
>>                                     you need to 'cover.' It takes the
>>                                                 pictures when you have
>>                                     'covered the circle. From there, the
>>                                                 app stitches it all
>>                                     together for you and then you can
>>                                     upload
>>                                                 it to Google maps. If
>>                                     you wanted to embed the photoshphere,
>>                                                 they have an api that
>>                                     you can sign up for to showcase that.
>>                                                 I hope to work on
>>                                     mapping out paths between the
>>                                                 photospheres, but we
>>                                     have not really started on that
>>                                     portion
>>                                                 at all. Try it out. I
>>                                     was really amazed at the ease of use
>>                                                 of the app.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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