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[Keith Smith]

I agree with Lyle.  Why not just set the minimum wage to $25/hr and pass 
a law that everything must not go up in price.  Oh and pass a law that 
every business must hire more folks.  That should fix things.

I do not get socialism.  The Pilgrims' experimented with socialism and 
it failed.  What you propose is a slippery slope to socialism.  Add a 
law here and another one there and another one to fix the prior one.... 
Look at ObamaCare.  That is what happens when the government gets 
involved.


I was thinking about this over the weekend.  Here is what I came up 
with.  Raise the minimum wage to $15/hr and ensure all other parts of 
the economy will stay in check, such as no loss of jobs and no 
inflation.

Then make sure I'm the guy at U-Haul that takes care of the rental 
returns.  Give my wife the same job.  My wife and I would work that job 
until we are 70.  I'd love that.  No stress, no hassle, no leaning new 
technology.  I could BBQ more often.  Camp more often and just enjoy 
life.  I'm all for it.  Can you arrange it?

Here is the down side.  I would not be forced to grow, learn and 
contribute.  As a Christian I believe God has given each of us unique 
talents and skills.  These talents and skills are for us to make a 
living and for making the community better. God requires that of us, not 
the government.

By messing with the market's equilibrium, you mess with a God made 
system. Man is fallible and government is even more fallible.

In the above $15/hr example my wife who is a nurse would quit her job 
and I would quit struggling with technology. My wife and I would lose 
our desire to find what we are good at and we would lose our desire to 
use our God given talent to better our community.

Struggle is good.  Struggle creates change.  What I see is some want to 
make things perfect. I say let us feel the pain, let us struggle so we 
are strong. I keep hearing about all these stats and how my experience 
is anecdotal, that my total life experience and watching those around me 
is anecdotal.  I must be some kind of freak. I must not have live an 
American life.

Remember failure is a good thing. History is full of failure that led to 
success.  Failure is a great teacher.  Once we stop failing we stop 
being successful.

It is up to us the people not the government.  Government should only be 
in place to protect the rights of the people and minimum wage is not a 
right.  Owning a home is not a right.  Health insurance is not a right.  
Life, Liberty, and The Pursuit of Happiness are rights.

Now having said that it is up to each of us to help make our community 
better by helping those in our community do better or to help them up 
when they have fallen.

It is you and I that are failing and we make it worse by delegating our 
responsibilities to the government.

We need to take responsibility.  Don't like businesses that pay low 
wages, don't buy their goods and services.  I'll bet not one of you that 
support raising the minimum wage will stop buying Walmart.

I will stand up against injustice with you, however YOU must be willing 
to stand up and pay the price.  If not do not ask me to sacrifice.





On 2016-12-12 07:21, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
> No - who SHARED that FACT.
> 
> At 12:22 AM 12/12/2016, Steve Litt wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 23:12:45 -0700 Lyle Tuttle <l.tuttle at cox.net>
>> wrote: > No, they are beginners in their life; learning how to work,
>> building > their skills in order to earn more..... > > And now, back
>> to PLUG Says the always on-topic l.tuttle at cox.net who started the
>> infamous "no wedding band" Obama critique on 8/29/2015:
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