MacBook

[Stephen Partington]

I have to say. If an update breaks your key software then you need to
manage your damned updates. All os' have the ability to do this. Just
implement it already.

On Aug 25, 2016 9:37 PM, "Michael Butash" <michael at butash.net> wrote:

> I remember trying the static compile approach back circa 2000 with linux
> and slackware.  After I'd learned Solaris, and why to hate it (making gnu
> software compile on it to not be a useless/costly linux), a buddy got me
> into Slackware, helping me install it, and how to compile a kernel and
> source.  I began compiling everything static as possible, particularly the
> kernel, and when I began growing/exploring/learning, it was just a constant
> "recompile this for this, recompile that for this too, and 50 other
> things".  I learned why that was a bad idea pretty quickly.
>
> I moved to Freebsd shortly thereafter, tried compling everything, and
> found that didn't work well either once you have to jump releases.  I
> already hated RedHat by that time with RPM-hell (pre yum, debatable if
> better after), and tried everything from mandrake to suse, finally landing
> on ubuntu that combined with debian apt, made shared libs somewhat
> manageable.  Ten years later, even with effort to leave Ubuntu, I'm still
> here, and remains the most painless, even though pain still comes a plenty.
>
> Again, I see pain in every os, particularly still windoze in this day and
> age, where for crying out loud with daily patches for the past 20 years,
> you'd think could figure out how the game works as a direct result of their
> incessantly poor security.  A week to fix a bad patch for a major security
> service pack release!?  People are getting fired for it, quite literally -
> why would any enterprise trust them in good conscience?
>
> And yeah, Amazon.  Fund lawyers, sue them for being dirtbags, spend 2
> years in court, and after lawyer fees get $200 dollars for passing go and
> wasting exponentially more effort than attributable to lost wages.  At this
> point I tell her she just needs to find a not crappy company that respects
> their employees to work for, but yeah, dubiously legally otherwise.  For a
> technology company, the CS side of things is apparently dysfunctional as
> all get out.
>
> A buddy was trying to get me to move to Seattle to work with AWS...  I
> used this on-going story as a reason why not to even try.  Even he was a
> bit stunned.
>
> -mb
>
>
> On 08/25/2016 08:55 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>
>> anyway, it sounds to me like we need to adopt some of the apple method
>> here. Instead of having system level libraries that handle the heavy
>> lifting, that each app  have it all compiled in. This should cut down on a
>> lot of issues, although it might introduce others.
>>
>> -eric
>>
>
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