do I understand this correctly?

[Michael Havens]

Is it correct that with apt-get unstable refers to the amount of testing
done with the system? I do not think it refers the alfa/beta status of the
program.

:-)~MIKE~(-:

On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:43 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> to the mint forums I go! Thanks for your help Mark. I'll post what I find
> out there after I hear back from them.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Mark Phillips <mark at phillipsmarketing.biz
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 3, 2015 11:14 AM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > so then, <version> is just for lower than the version that are in the
>> apt-cache.
>>
>> Actually, the version you want has to be in your sources.list.
>>
>> glad I'm talking to you all about this because I just discovered that
>> after you run <package>=<version> you need to run :
>> >
>> > sudo echo “package hold” | sudo dpkg –set-selections
>>
>> Only if you don't want the package upgraded at the next apt-get upgrade.
>>
>> >
>> > I also discovered that to find the versions in the repository you  run:
>> >
>> > apt-cache showpkg packagename
>> >
>> > so is there no way to force a version into apt-cache?
>>
>> The sources.list just says where to find a package. Sort of like a big
>> phone book...if you don't have the white pages for Ajo, you can't find your
>> friend's phone number who lives in Ajo. Once you get the Ajo book, you have
>> access to everyone's phone number in Ajo, but you are only interested in
>> your friend's number.
>>
>> Pinning tells apt to only use the 2011 edition of the Ajo phone book to
>> look up your friend's phone number, even though you now subscribe to the
>> latest version of the Ajo phone book. You still have all the latest phone
>> numbers on hand, which does not impact your selection of the 2011 phone
>> number for your friend's phone number.
>>
>> I just tried to force the installation of the unstable version of the
>> package (sudo apt-get install kmymoney/unstable) but it seems as if it
>> isn't called 'unstable' in mint (ubuntu). Am I doing it wrong? What are the
>> Archives called in Mint (ubuntu)
>>
>> Sorry, I have never used mint. Just a long time Debian user who recently
>> switched to Ubuntu for my desktop with my new laptop...It came
>> pre-installed. ;-)
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> >
>> > :-)~MIKE~(-:
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 10:32 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> help immensely. Thank you Mark.
>> >>
>> >> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Mark Phillips <
>> mark at phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Michael,
>> >>>
>> >>> If all you have is the stable branch in your sources.list, then you
>> won't have access to any of the testing packages, even if you specify
>> testing on the command line with apt-get. apt-get has to know where to find
>> the package you want to download, which is why sources.list exists. If you
>> want to be able to install both testing and stable packages, then you have
>> to have both stable and testing branches listed in your sources.list.
>> >>>
>> >>> If you want to hold a package to a specific version or branch
>> (stable, testing, experimental), then you can "pin" that package to that
>> version, and all future updates will only use that version. Take a look at
>> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html. However, you still have
>> to have the correct repositories listed in sources.list, and you have to
>> run an apt-get upgrade to update the local cache so the OS knows where to
>> find the packages you want.
>> >>>
>> >>> Hope that helps!
>> >>>
>> >>> Mark
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 1:02 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> A specific version of a package can be selected for installation by
>> >>>> following the package name with an equals (=) and the version of the
>> package to select. This will cause that version to be located and selected
>> for install. Alternatively, a specific distribution can be selected by
>> following the package name with a slash (/) and the version of the
>> distribution or the Archive name (i.e. stable, testing, unstable).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> source: http://linux.die.net/man/8/apt-get
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So this is saying to me you don't need the PPA to install the latest
>> version but can instead do:
>> >>>> <package>=<version>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If that is so we don't need to add PPAs to our systems. IN other
>> words PPAs are just a way to make it so that we are always running the
>> latest version of the package regardless of if it works whereas we choose
>> what we want to run with:
>> >>>> <package>=<version>
>> >>>> That is very Linuxy of them!
>> >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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