FCC considering proposal to lock down computing devices (routers, PCs, phones, SDRs) to prevent modification | Southgate Amateur Radio News

Eric Oyen eric.oyen at icloud.com
Sun Aug 30 19:26:37 MST 2015


oh yes, the government bureaucracy is certainly afraid of those like us who have the knowledge to do these kinds of things. They may start attacking Linux Next by saying its the "Hacker's OS". Once that starts happening, things will get seriously wierd (and worrisome).

-eric

On Aug 30, 2015, at 7:14 PM, Michael Butash wrote:

> Sadly security through obscurity is still prevalent in government systems, and this is a backward way of trying to enforce that.
> 
> Here's a good primer on the 4.9ghz wireless spectrum and accessing it.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjsXzFRJfT8&spfreload=10
> 
> Most 5ghz nics *can* access it, but are disallowed from doing so by their regional encoding.  Patches can bypass this as they show, and you can then sniff safety networks.  What you find is things like wep, static keys, simple lack of security, SSID's like "SCADA" popping up, all sorts of things.
> 
> You can also just go on ebay and find old 4.9ghz kit.
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> What to do in response?  Threaten anyone that patches their kernel driver to use a feature.
> 
> Same with cell phones.  Years ago I had a palm pre on sprint, and sprint's crap service made the phone unusable.  I wanted it on verizon, so I found cdma workshop software, reprogrammed the radio band, and got it to connect to verizon.  They refused to provision the phone, and began hinting that what I was doing was technically illegal after harassing them to make it work for near a month.  I gave up, annoyed with both sprint and verizon.
> 
> Then it made sense to me - what I was doing could also reprogram the imei/meid on the device, pretending I'm someone else's radio, or their phone all together.  I could have just programmed the meid off an old windoze phone, but that would have been blatantly illegal, but was almost trivial once doing the rest that I did.  Much of their security presumes you *cannot* change that number, but you can...
> 
> This is why cdma-based providers (sprint/verizon/cricket) lock bootloaders explicitly, as anything else compromises the possibility to tinker with the radio, and clone someone's phone.  Only the government can do that.
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> Software-defined radios tap into all sorts of possibility sniffing into insecure protocol traffic previously unexplored due to fcc vendor limitations in making versatile tunable radios.  They're afraid.
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> -mb
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> On 08/30/2015 02:19 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> gee, what did I say about the government wanting to lock us down? here is the first shot across the bow.
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>> -eric
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>> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/2015/august/fcc_proposes_ban_on_sdr_radios_and_more.htm#.VeNyokuwgy6
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