python

[Todd Millecam]

No, you should not worry about it.

My entire career, doing full-out conversions from python 2 to python 3 I've
run into only two problems.

1)  In python 3, you need to output stuff via a print() as opposed to a
print "" in python 2
2)  python 3 defaults all character encodings to unicode, whereas python 2
needed a unicode string specified with a u''
by python 3.4, they made it so the u'' syntax is ignored and just made into
a string.

Often, to get python3, it's a package named python3

Also, everything I've seen from the head-first series is basically just
fluff where the authors care more about hearing themselves talk than they
do about covering the subject matter.

Honestly, getting ipython/bpython installed and just tab-completing
everything and using the built-in documentation is as good as any textbook,
but starting out that way is kinda difficult.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:55 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I do have a concern though; the programs are written in Python3. In 'The
> Hard Way' the author is very adament about NOT using Python3. Should I
> worry about that? How would I go about installing Python3 with apt-get?
> 2.7.6 is what is installed on my system now.
>
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> yea James. thanks. I wish they had a free version but i suppose $50 isn't
>> bad for a text book?
>>
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:21 PM, James Dugger <james.dugger at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you are new to programming look at
>>> "Head First Programming: A learner 's guide to programming using the
>>> Python language" by David Griffiths and Paul Barry.
>>>
>>> The Head First books take a different approach to learning.  I gave this
>>> book to my 10 year old son who used it to learn programming and Python.
>>> On Apr 5, 2015 12:24 PM, "Michael Havens" <bmike1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No problem. I am doing it (badly) "... the hard way."
>>>>
>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:21 PM, James Mcphee <jmcphe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> sorry for not responding sooner, michael.  everyone learns in their
>>>>> own way.  if a course is not for you, I can at least point you at how I
>>>>> pick up new languages.  what works for me is the old "scratch an itch"
>>>>> process.  find something that you want to do, and do it with a language.
>>>>>  start small, maybe checking your email or twitter.  it's a matter of
>>>>> getting some inertia behind you.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Michael Havens <bmike1 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please expand. How would you recommend I go about to learn this (not
>>>>>> in a formal setting)? I can not afford to take classes and because of a
>>>>>> head injury doubt I could complete it successfully anyways.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In your list I notice you do not mention learning any programming
>>>>>> language. Why is that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you mean by "OS shell integration"?  Is that saying I need to
>>>>>> learn BASH as opposed to Python?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "string operations must mean BASH....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when you say "regular expressions"  is this a good resource here
>>>>>> <http://www.aboutlinux.info/2006/01/learn-how-to-use-regular-expressions.html>?
>>>>>> Would I use this with BASH or Python or both?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I notice that in http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ there is a
>>>>>> section that covers using Python with websites so handling and forming
>>>>>> automated web requests is probably covered in more advanced  Python
>>>>>> tutorials.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So to sum it up I think I need to learn Python and BASH. Is this
>>>>>> correct? I also need to learn XML,  JSON  (what do you mean when you say
>>>>>> "from xml.dom import minidom ; import json") and SQL
>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For all the pen testing and hacker stuff I went through (7 some odd
>>>>>> years ago), here's what you'll want to know how to do, in approximate order
>>>>>> of priority:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> xml and json parsing (from xml.dom import minidom ; import json)
>>>>>> connecting to and using a database (learn enough SQL to be able to
>>>>>> navigate around one here too), learning sqlalchemy will be enough to land
>>>>>> you a job in the field
>>>>>> OS shell integration (import os)
>>>>>> string operations
>>>>>> regular expressions (import re)
>>>>>> handling and forming automated web requests
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> James McPhee
>>>>> jmcphe at gmail.com
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